Re: [-empyre-] the use in girls coming

Ciao Katherine,

you're right, form and substance cannot be easily
separated. If I had a neutral position, and was
interested in a 'civilised' and quite discussion about
the issues at hand, I wouldn't have probably bothered
answering. The very reason for my infuriated answer is
that I found the post disturbing, which probably was
at the essence of it.

I'm arguing that scandal = art.
And I'm discussing the notion of cyber feminism.

I agree, our online experiences are highly influenced
by our living in the physical world, but then, hey, we
are still physical entities and if we even meet, we
would be likely to be a man and a woman.

But that does not change the fact that I still think
that, despite what someone else pointed out about
techie user groups and male oriented discussion group,
the very range of possibilities for expression is as
open as it could even been. We have stories surfacing
from countries where women are still physically
oppressed, we know a lot more about the condition and
necessity of real feminism to contrast a male
dominated world.

But my main argument is that whilst I do see the
necessity of fighting for true euqlity of
opportunities between men and women in some
environments, I cannot understand that very need in
the bloathed cyberspace. The fact that some discussion
groups are oriented towards arguments that are more
domain of men, does not prevent women to make their
own voice heard. It is possible, there are no
constraints. The Net was controlled by the Military,
but that was 20 years ago. I can be pretty sure that I
can say that Bush is an idiot, here, and no one will
come to arrest me tomorrow (I hope, if you don't hear
from me, I'll be rottening in an American jail :-)

Completely different is the case if myself and you go
to Harvard Business School, have the same IQ, and come
out with the same excellent degree. I would
unfortunately be more like than you to make it to the
top position in business. Is this fair? Of course not.
Should we fight against it? Definitely!

But the situation here is different. We have
provocation for the sake of it, no real need, no
rights of oppressed cyber women to defend.

To claim to be the cyber feminist of the 21st century,
in the name of the cunt, if to offend not myself (and
in the end I'm still a man) but the great women wha
have really done something fro the progress of
civilisation and women's right.

And to try to have this passing for art, based on a
6x2 meters layout, is simply ridiculous.

I cannot help it. And I'm not on fire anymore :-)

Best regards,



>>i would like to 
> ask Julianne about its use in the manifesto. what
> are the politics of 
> this word? what is its importance to cyberfeminist
> discourse?

Yes. I'm interested too.

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