Re: [-empyre-] Re: empyre - are we activists?
Title: Re: [-empyre-] Re: empyre - are we
Mary ... ( et all ) - Hi
What do you mean by " what
could almost be seen as "activist" media
making." I do intend this as a serious inquiry, as
these categorizations/definitions are often bandied about
without a distinct cultural specificity - thanks!
Jonathan and Joseph-
I'm all for appropriation and critical
reworking of popular culture, and thanks, you caught my gist -
that this reworking is many times skipped for simple substitution. I
think as educators we can ask difficult and inspiring questions, and
be good examples for what could almost be seen as "activist"
~ m a r y
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1. [empyre] producers and consumers (mary flanagan)
. Re: [empyre] producers and consumers (Melinda Rackham)
3. Re: [empyre] producers and consumers
4. Re: [empyre] producers and consumers (Jonathan
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:15:05 -0800
From: mary flanagan <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Subject: [-empyre-] [empyre] producers and consumers
thanks for your thoughts. I call my thoughts utopian because I
simultaneously cannot help but see the "megalith of the
popular culture" as a very very large obstacle towards true
and collective creative acts. As a committ
ed teacher, I am a firm
believer in personal creativity. However on occasion I have
art and media students, for example, turning in projects created
other artists or by Hollywood as their own -- not as plagiaristic
solutions to the assignment, but because the commercial works
they wanted to say *for* them" and the students thought this was
same as personal creativity. (Believe me, this has resulted in many
long discussions!) In many circles, at least in the US, we've become
culture where years can pass by before someone might face the
of actually *making* anything - food, clothing, gift, etc etc.
But -- I'm optimistic and personally chipping away at this
megalith. It would thrill me to no end to find out about and
music by Mrs. Ludmilla Borghese of Pavia, for example, instead of
Madonna! But right now, for example, the top ten on filesharing
cused on music tend to be the top ten on the charts, etc.
~ m a r y
1. the role of participants as *both* producers and consumers
From: "Joseph Nechvatal" <email@example.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:53:38 +0000
Subject: [-empyre-] the role of participants as *both* producers and
When you say that "the role of participants as *both* producers
needs to be emphasized" I fully consent. This is very important.
must look forward to the time when every user is also a server - a
the upload/download process i
s complimentary (at least between creative
people). This in no way seems utopian to me. Does it to you?
Please let me hear from you on this at your leisure.
home page: http://www.nechvatal.net
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