Surely not-for-profit and profit galleries are still part of the same system
of taking art to be non-functional to-be-looked-ats, taking perhaps objects
out of context and recontextualising them in the gallery system? Surely in
galleries there is censorship, moderation, subscription and dominance by a
I take it that the list is a very different space, but I don't think
parallels can't be drawn....
[mailto:email@example.com] On Behalf Of Alan Sondheim
Sent: 12 August 2004 15:19
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] subscription
Hi - couldn't disagree with you more. The fact I go to galleries doesn't
mean I 'subscribe' to them - simply that they're available and free. I don't
endorse or not endorse; in fact, there are times I've fought & published
against the system. If anything, I'm associated with non-profits or flexible
venues (I've curated in both). It's simply I can walk in when I want if I
want. On a list, including this list, there is censorship, moderation,
subscription, and dominance by a few posters. This is very different
_vis-a-vis audience_ or spectator, from a gallery.
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Charlotte Frost wrote:
I am going to try and reply to a few points before I am out of time....
Alan I was really interested when you said:
"Well, one doesn't have to subscribe to an art gallery. One just walks in.
One doesn't have to get along with the other people in the gallery. I've
got a kill file, so I don't get too upset at some people's postings. I
have to do that at Sonnabend. In some ways corporate space is a lot freer
and more democratic, most often kinder, than most lists I've been on. I'm
lucky with cybermind, etc. etc. - they're open to just about anything."
Because I think that actually it's the opposite, we *DO* subscribe to art
galleries, and it is our very commitment to them that makes them
places to be. I'm not talking about the specifics of whether white cubes
'friendly' so much as the fact our belief in them is what makes them
up all over the place. You might not have checked a subscription form, and
you might not receive daily mail outs from them, but a belief in them is
everywhere you go, from Sonnabend to Tate...
I think lists sometimes bring the art gallery into your home! They
you with the information and links to find the work, they give you
on works and announcements on how you can get even more involved.... Its
just in real world galleries we have a different etiquette, probably
because we have faces in galleries and so we aren't so bold.
But not subscribe to galleries? - if you go to Sonnabend, you surely do!
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