Re: [-empyre-] Netbehaviour
marc, you don't need to take sole responsibility for kicking that
individual off the netbehaviour list. i was one of many who
complained about him, both on and off list, & i wasn't the only one
who was relieved when he was gone. even filtering his posts straight
into the trash was annoying bcos at the time i was on a very dodgy
dialup, & then there were everyone else's reactionary responses ...
i'm all for open & unmoderated lists but i also get pissed off when
individuals abuse that openness, especially when it becomes very
petty/nasty/excessive. the difficulty is where to draw the line (if
at all) & which response to choose. i could have unsubscribed from
netbehaviour (something i still occasionally consider) but so far i'm
glad i haven't. if many people responded by unsubscribing, what kind
of a list are you left with & what is its purpose?
so far, netbehaviour is a pretty interesting experiment in human
behaviour, & there's good info & projects coming thru amongst all the
fluff. it will be interesting to see what happens if/when the
controversial voting system is exercisede ...
h : )
I find this question above, that Andreas asked - regarding my own
personal experience at the moment is very poignant -
Furtherfield.org - recently set up a list called
www.netbehaviour.org a little while back.
We wanted to break down the over-seriousness that many lists have
been reverting to. Sure intellectual debate is fine, but such a
singular way of being is so dry and can just kill those fertile
creative juices. Ok - yes, academic lists are cool - but what about
the artists, they don't wanna be typing lengthy dissertations every
time they post a message to a list - many do, but some also wish to
be part of something that communicates in way that lets one relax a
little and not feel self-conscious about what one is saying all of
I certainly learned my lesson in respect of control and all - when I
bumped someone off the netbehaviour list for posting hundreds of
(what i thought) was non-sensical and dreary self referential emails
about one;s persons personal life continuously. I felt that it was
distracting and killing the soul of the list - so I kicked that
individual out. The list members complained (a lot) and they had
good reason to...
The consensus was that - 'for a small network of socially and
culturally engaged people to, be able to discover a real sense of
list-authenticity - things just have to be a little more relaxed and
less worried. Less fear about whether the list is doing things right
all of the time. So I was asked literally to stop fathering the list
as though I owned it, cuz I didn't - it was their list, and mine,
So control was offered over the list members to make decisions
collaboratively in future, some people disagreed but it was
democratically decided on....and more people wanted to take control
of the list than just a small minority of people who wish to have
their mission statements acted out by others.
Control is not in mine or furtherfield's little slippery paws
anymore) - the moderation has evolved into a collaborative
occasion(s), where there is a voting system that decides what goes
down at the little' list of evolutionary behaviour.
On netbehaviour - the performers are taking over - yet in a way that
is collaboratively decided. For instance we have set up list
residencies so net creatives who have list noise, that they wish to
declare, share & debate. They can ask the list members publicly, to
have their work/ideas seen for 2 weeks as a list residency.
So far we have had Brad Brace, who showed some excellent work. We
have archived the whole list-behaviour between list members and brad
brace, and much critical and playful discussion was had by many on
We now have Mez who is taking part in the list residency, and mez is
piling and kinds of fantastical symbols, sigils and poetic noise
that moves beyond academic reasonings alone, for it is performance -
it is behaviour.
I feel that many (official) lists have missed out on a lot of
creativity, by not encouraging list exploration - or not trying to
change their own intentions to adapt to the very urgent and
contemporary needs of list users. Lists should be alive, sinful,
critical, breathing, breathing, breathing...
NetBehaviour List Residencies:
- an ongoing in-house project built by users of this list.
An networked artist/curator/writer residency lasting for 2 weeks
where a practitioner's work is seen, as part of the list experience,
adding an authentic sense of stuff to the list that does not
necessarily rely just on debate alone, but also on behaviour. A
grass roots form of intellectual behaviour that is creative just by
being what it is...net.behaviour.
helen varley jamieson: creative catalyst
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