Re: [-empyre-] academia-From marc garrett
yeah...what did I mean by academic?
I guess I locate myself at the margins so I am always careful to not assume that every one is out to swamp me or make me feel like I am less than.
I say that because that is precisely my experience so I completely concur with you. Yes I believe that discussions can and do become exclusive ( and yes it does seem like the intellectual nod of acceptance)which is probably why I remain largely in the realm of the lurker and read the archives to 'keep up' with some of the conversations posted on Empyre.
My problem lies in that I am trying to be less 'angsty' or reactive to the fact that some people are really comfortable with language and constructs that remain exclusive of OTHER and in doing so I feel like I am in a position of owning my own power and ability to assume my own location in any conversation... so although I may have sounded like I was trying to be a clever art wanker, it is really that I am a frustrated black artist in the margins of a Western art construct and trying to be as forgiving or not as closed as the Western canon appears to be to me.
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> Hi aka.leafa and 'Academic' list users,
> I disagree with your notion that, this list needs to be a "place where
> academic rigour is maintained to a degree". On or in, what terms do you
> mean academic?
> If feel that 'academia' isolates other people who would wish to be
> involved in such debates. There is a big difference between intellectual
> argument and academic argument. Academic argument comes from a place of
> culturalized reference, high art, high science, or accepted and
> (supposed) informed knowledge that has been institutionally accepted.
> This means that if you use an academic argument, you are more likely to
> be agreed with by those who value such structures and theories. Because
> they instantly understand the triggers, signifiers being inferred. Thus,
> an immediate rapport occurs, a kind of mental handshake and recognition
> that one has equally gone through the same learning processes. This is
> of course a positive experience for those who wish to have their so
> called educational references re-affirmed, but it serves no solution to
> solve the issue or crux, that 'Academia' only serves the few.
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