Re: [-empyre-] location and data (was: no subject)

Just a reminder of the origin of this thread because I think we're
getting to the gist of things:

> If you see a city and you see data, how do you see the two in
> juxtaposition or integration?  If you were presented with either a
> vacant
> lot where a historical theater once stood, a stretch of nondescript
> desert
> in the same length and width as the autobahn, or a city center newly
> built, which would you choose to work with?

Now that we're talking about Bakhtin, I think what's missing here (at
least to make it interesting to me, personally) is the fact that the
'data' being refered to is not the kind of GPS based, chronotopic data
that I'm interested in. So the data presented is not going to generate
its own narrated chronotope as in a movie or novel. When I talk about
'filling in the blanks' (previous post), I'm not talking about the
artist filling in the blanks but the artist presenting the data in such
a way that each viewer can fill in the blanks as they see fit, based
either on their knowledge or lack of knowledge of the space and
individual/s interacting with it. The way certain people interact with a
certain point in space on a regular basis, says a lot about that space
and you can hint at a lot of particulars just by presenting that
interaction along with the time factor. It's really quite shocking how
much information you can extract from something like this, regardless of
whether that information is true or not. That's not really the point.


On sun, 2004-09-19 at 06:03, Teri Rueb wrote:
> ..."felt" and "observed" being bound up in each crary's 
> 'observer', the notion of reflexivity...
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Pall Thayer

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