Re: [-empyre-] encounter and extension

hi all --
thanks for some thoughtful posts --

as a nzer myself, but settling back into the country, i am processing all of this and matching it up to my existing nz-cultural databanks and checking for additions, anomalies & updates. The databanks would get a bit of an update every two years with a visit home, but only through the fairly recent creation of ADA has my picture become clearer of who and what there might be to 'encounter'. Some places to start, in digital media arts in NZ.

After living in croatia/slovenia and the US for many years, I am thinking alot about what does it mean to be a 'resident' here now again, to be a living and working from within NZ. Comparing situations and circumstances, and how the different combinations of parameters can play out -

For instance I do also see a freedom from the peripheries - in works such as darko fritz's "time=money=time=" performance where he had a zagreb tram going around and around a main city square, as I do in the spirit of douglas bagnall's film-making robot installed on wellington city buses. Both in small, peripheral countries. Though Darko's piece was somewhat enabled by the chaos of an overly bureaucratic system in Croatia, and I imagine Douglas's helped by a comparative lack of red-tape in NZ. (Douglas, are you on here?)

The difficulties of dealing at once with the concept of a nation-state - "New Zealand culture" - and individual practices has already been sensitively articulated by su & danny. I am not sure quite how to respond fully yet, especially this issue of seeking 'authenticity'. But it does at least highlight some other ongoing social paradigms of NZ, such as the increasing variety of cultures that are now a part of NZ, and the remaining factor of how so many citizens spend long periods of time or immigrating 'overseas'.

The latter may also relate back to adam's question about 'international recognition' and funding, residencies, etc. How outward-looking are we / do we want to be? What kind of relationships would be of the most profound benefit for the various practises within NZ? How much do we intentionally or unintentionally separate those NZ artists living overseas and those residing here, and to what benefit/detriment? Encountering/hearing of so many of the NZ artists active in digital media arts in the .us and .eu - and then coming home & getting a better picture of the active work going on here - these two growing networks still seem highly separated and I wonder if there could not be a better bridge formed between 'periphery' residents and carriers (those overseas), to create a spectrally rich, roaring feedback loop.

best from the 2nd day in my new flat in auckland, aotearoa/nz, :) //trudy

On 14/01/2005, at 9:34 PM, su b wrote:

Hi all,
danny ended with a brief comment about discomfort with nation-states, and something clicked for me.
As a 'group' (even that word is problematic) we are here to discuss media.....our practice.....something specific about aotearoa/nz......I'm not sure...but whatever it is, this is a very difficult thing to do. I have been wondering why, is this a particularly nz discomfort with putting yourself out there, and speaking? I don't think so. The discomfort also connects across a number of the posts over the last few days.
Adam asks how important is international recognition - and i wondered what is international anyway? does it mean across nations? between nations? nations other than our own? places where we haven't lived? or is it simply somewhere where what we do might be recognised as somehow different to what has been done before - Whale Rider a complex case in point! So we introduce questions of trust, of 'authenticity' (actually i'm not sure any of us have used this word but it seems implied) and negotiation. And the topic circles around back to location and of residence. This discussion becomes an encounter, rather than a reflection of the local, or of our particular nation-state. We encounter each other, and each other's habits, obsessions, tastes, politics.
Maybe its because I'm in Golden Bay, but I can't stop thinking about empyre as a b&b (bed and breakfast) welcoming us in, giving us a warm room with a beautiful view over the eastury, serving us extravagant breakfast that we can't possibly consume, remaining polite, and waving goodbye from the letterbox at the end of our stay. Can we do more than this? write on the walls....

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