Re: [-empyre-] video killed the radio star

Lots of good info here, Liza.  Thanks.  Want to be a

Folks, if you really want to get into the dirtier tech
side of weblogs perhaps you should direct questions to

Honestly, if you have lots of techie types of
questions there are other people who can answer them
much better than I can.


--- Liza Sabater <> wrote:

> On Jun 15 2005, at 05:40 PM, Chris Ashley wrote:
> > --- marcus bastos <> wrote:
> >> the thin line that separates public and private
> in
> >> cyberspace? Doesn´t
> >> blog culture seems to be related with these
> broader
> >> tendencies, that
> >> is, a larger culture of using the web as a tool
> for
> >> periodic
> >> publishing, but also as a tool for publishing
> >> material that would
> >> probably be discarded or reformated in a
> different
> >> context?
> >
> > Yes, that's true.  That's a nice way of saying it.
> > One could also say, "Weblogs are a great way to
> post
> > all kinds of crap."  And there must be value in
> there
> > somewhere, but it's a lot to sift through.  I
> think if
> > something needs a home the producer is going to
> find a
> > place for it, weblog or not.  So an artist or
> writer
> > or musician is going to find ways to distribute
> their
> > work.  Weblogs have made that a little easier
> since
> > the barriers for entry are so low- you can have
> your
> > weblog hosted for you, you don't need to know any
> > HTML, really, you don't need permission, you own
> it,
> > and you can start them and leave them as needed.
> I'd like to expand a bit on this because it seems
> thought that people 
> like the EMPYRE bunch is confusing the practices of
> blogging with the 
> technologies.
> Blogs actually are fantastic archival tools. A blog
> does not compare in 
> archiving and googability to a static site, needless
> to say to those 
> Flash-based abominations called dynamic sites. And I
> do say they are 
> better than listserves for managing and archiving
> many different 
> conversations at once.
> There are different degrees of robustness to blogs,
> which are basically 
> content management systems in their most basic form.
> It does not mean 
> you need to use a blog just for content, but content
> is data and, well, 
> it is far better to have a CMS than a static site.
> So Kominio's comment 
> that Chris could just as easily slap his stuff on a
> web page shows a 
> lack of comprehension on what this technology is
> meant to do.
> The range of blog technology is very wide. It really
> goes beyond 
> MovableType and Blogger. You can get fully archived
> threaded 
> discussions a la Slashdot with Scoop, Drupal and
> even MT, WordPress, 
> b2evolution and Textpattern with the use of a couple
> of plug-ins and 
> some CSS. Depending on how you want to use it as a
> point of movement 
> for you thorugh the internet, a blog can turn from
> just a tool for 
> publishing into a social networking hub.
> MailLists, unless managed through a blogging
> interface, just can't do 
> that, because MailMan is also more of a private
> technology and 
> mailinglists work more like "cliques" as opposed to
> blogs which are 
> more like "public squares". I am using these
> metaphors to describe the 
> technology, NOT the practices.
> Quick tought about the practices : archiving as
> accumulation, 
> hyperlinking as fugue and rhyzome, non-linearity and
> ellipsis; just to 
> throw out there a few.  When thinking of blogs from
> the POV of 
> aesthetics, we need to think of the neo-baroque.
> What I love about Chris's squares is that they are
> like poetry verses 
> of a poem that does not seem to have an end. They're
> very much an 
> expression of Fernando Pessoas "ser-se" of being
> being. Blogs can be a 
> technology used for unfolding being being. That's
> why I'm so enthralled 
> with how people like linkoln and, jimpunk and chris
> use it.
> Liza Sabater
> Blog Publisher
> AIM - cultkitdiva
> SKYPE - lizasabater
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