Re: [-empyre-] C. S. Peirce and Code

Well Giselle, yes  I am reading a "page", maybe an electronic simulation -
but it is an analogue of a  page and without the analogue version I cannot
do what I am doing  as a learnt process. The machine of the book still
predominates in alphabetic writing and reading.

As to tracking, that I believe is a residual; art forms are tracks of
creative processes that is they are residuals of conscious sensations. Just
that with digital writing tools are far more accessible and essay to use,
similar to difference between piano and violin; the piano is more of a
machine and therefore produces results more quickly. The violin is more

It is an "E-MAIL" which you read - electronic mail: we still couldn't get
past the old paper envelope.


On 17/10/05 3:46 PM, "giselle beiguelman" <> wrote:

> Adrian,
> Thanks. You made my day.
> I agree with everything.
> Btw, I would like to stress:
> Roman, are you reading a page?
> Of course, you are not. This is an e-mail message and it is another thing.
> Delete it or not. It does not inscribe anything.
> Do you think there is a "place" in cyberspace you can call "home" (or
> home page?)
> We are facing a new reading_condition (because we are dealing with a
> new writing condition).
> Content = no cache is my favourite tag.
> It points to a new written world where we do not inscribe anymore. You
> describe. There is shift a here: towards the track (and tracked)
> culture.
> 2005/10/17, Adrian Miles <>:
>> around the 17/10/05 Roman Danylak mentioned about Re: [-empyre-] C.
>> S. Peirce and Code that:
>>> When people say "digital writing" how is this different to pen writing? Is
>>> this different to typewriter writing? Does it then make a difference  to the
>>> language  used if you write on an electronic word processor?
>> yes. if only the medium of reception/reading is different (where is
>> the beginning of my blog? the end?, or a real hypertext?).
>>> Do I compose language differently for the telephone?
>> absolutely. We have quite different protocols and rules for how we
>> talk on phones. There is a very complex set of behaviours that
>> controls turn taking for example, which since we can't see the other
>> speaker is only linguistic. Also the simple activity of announcing
>> yourself when the phone rings ("hi, it's Adrian speaking") is an act
>> that is not done in any other context (eg having a conversation at
>> dinner).
>> --
>> cheers
>> Adrian Miles
>> hypertext.RMIT
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