Re: [-empyre-] Re: empyre Digest, Vol 15, Issue 2

it bothers me that the borders are evoked so easily and that the f-word (foreigners) rolls so easily from the fingertips as an accusation of 'not having the right kind of knowledge'. at the core, some of these issues are human rights issues and have broader implications for all western democracies than just the specific sedition laws. they are international or global issues. i think many people on this list will bring the australian knowledge to this discussion.

i support the choices tracey has made and don't think she should be expected to apologise for her selection of guests. i also welcome the comments all those guests have to make ... this is an online discussion list and its nature is not one of experts and non-experts nor is it necessarily one of foreigners and nationals. it has never been the case that this list lauds experts in this manner. the guests are simply people with something to say and what they have to say is supposed to be a springboard for other discussion. i also wholly appreciate the efforts tracey and other volunteer moderators are making to tease out and broaden the discussion about these issues in this environment particularly in relation to human rights. this has become an international list and i'd welcome hearing about the breadth of experience and knowledge regarding the extent of these corruptions of liberal democracy in this world and, as tracey identifies, the culture of fear which seems to stop people from talking about it ... cheers. linda

At 07:15 PM 6/02/2006, wrote:

<Hi blakkbyrd,

<I am responsible for putting together the list of guest this month and
understand where you are coming from.

I dont think you do. I think it is extremely insulting to the members of
this discussion list that you can bring in two foreigners as "authorities"
on Australian legal issues.  How patronising can you get?

There is no intention to be patronising here - and I apologise to list members
who feel this way... my only intention was to open up a discussion about a
topic that has serious implications for cultural producers locally and globally

A number of people from the organisations you mentioned were invited to be
guests but did not commit to the discussion.

Why not? Are they concerned about making public statements regarding the
new legislation?

Yes - I do believe this could have been a reason why some of the intended guests
did not commit..

I know that as a moderator I should try and remain impartial (and I will attempt
to do this) BUT I personally can not subscribe to this culture of fear that has
emerged so swiftly and silently...If this is what is happening?? Or maybe I
have just lived in my Canberra bubble for too long??


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