Re: [-empyre-] Prototyping
I prefer the term synthetic to refer to these environments. After
working in them for an extended period I find that they are "real"
though often very different from terestrially "real" environments.
I also prefer to use the phrase "art in the synthetic world" because
as you point out art is art.
On the contrary I find it interesting the Deleuze used virtual as a
superset of actual, or in the world of forms and therefore superior
to the finite/fixed/actual.
On Aug 22, 2007, at 4:03 PM, Pall Thayer wrote:
I've been watching the SL discussion from the sidelines. A lot of
interesting issues and ideas have popped up but there's one issue
that occurred to me recently. Worlds such as SL are touted as being
virtual, in other words, almost real but not quite. We could talk
about the virtual art in such a virtual world but I've always
considered the idea of "virtual art" as a misnomer. I wonder
whether it couldn't be said that the only "real" thing you can
encounter in SL is the art. For art is never virtual, it either is
or it isn't regardless of how it manifests itself.
On 22-Aug-07, at 10:35 PM, <email@example.com>
i was really intrigued by the sustainable house on SL, and the
possibilities here to prototype sustainable architecture and
design. then with commercial AND community objectives, present a
virtual display home/visitor centre, with multimedia interp,
appliance information, affiliate links etc.
so i think that in this context, arts and economics can be applied
in SL to address the most relevant of RL issues.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Peach"
To: "soft_skinned_space" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 12:27 PM
Subject: RE: [-empyre-] Prototyping
Hi folks - back to an arts and economics question. I am just
wondering what people think about SL being used as a prototyping
platform for artworks, craft and exhibitions?
I know there are a lot of art/craft items already being developed
in SL for SL (bling, furniture, object d'art) but what are the
opportunities for these items to move into RL, maybe even on a
commercial basis? How much of RL will actually begin to reflect SL
in the future? I for one would love a pose ball in my RL lounge
for those moments I just need a little bit of extra motivation for
Also, how do people feel about selling curated exhibitions and
artworks in prototype form in SL before it enters RL? I am
thinking for example, that a curator may have an idea for an
artwork and/or exhibition say at MoMA and if MoMA had an SL space
mapping the RL MoMA in detail, an artist/curator could potentially
curate the show in there as a prototype in an attempt to sell it
off to MoMA or other museums/galleries in both RL and SL? This is
using SL conservatively I know - but just wondering about the
possibilities. I know of quite a few artists who use SL as a
platform to experiment with particular artworks before making them
in RL already.
Would other artists/curators be comfortable working in this
fashion? What do people think of this mimeses? Is it too far
removed form the 'object' and its aura, or do others (and I must
confess I do) find the difference between synthetic and 'real'
objects sometimes immaterial?
Dr. Ricardo Peach
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