Re: [-empyre-] What is to be done

On 1/19/07, Melinda Rackham <> wrote:
Mez hi..
Nice to know you are still around  - ive missed your unique perspectives..


By we  i am referring to cultural producers -that's the spot i sit in in
this conversation..   have you produced any projects which raised money
and/or secured resources to  benefit other artists or writers or the
community at large lately?

...i'm currently n.gaged in a project doing just that...the proj is auction/exhibition for drought relief in the upper lachlan shire where the artists n.volved agree 2 auction off 1 of their wurks. it n.volves raising $650,000 [2 fund drilling 14 community water bores on Council controlled land] + n.volves around 30 artists.

I guarantee that that funders and institutions
wont  be  philosophically musing  on wether they subscribe to a heavily
westernised conception of reality .. They will be wanting outcomes which are
beneficial to their aims and goals and public profile.

actually most of the ppl n.volved have their primary motivations more altruistically oriented. granted there r those ppl [mostly agents] trying 4 a more market-based angle but surprisingly the n_[stitutions]frastructures n.volved r trying to actually lessen the red tape rather than confuzzle with it....

And sure you can route around that and slip into the institutional gaps and
exploit the bugs in the social software and hardware , and get projects up
in other contexts, not reliant on these avenues.. but really we all know
that isn't sustainable.

in my neck-of-the-reality-woo[ul]ds i use choice as a variable rather than [as you seem 2] offering a perspective of viewing the world thru blanket motivators/conceptions. .....+ i subscribe 2 the notion that the pervading theories prevalent at the time rn't th only 1's via which cultures b.comes viable. sustainability is now an x.tremely load[irty]ed term [IMNSHO] appropriated via economical rationalism in order 2 mainstream [pigeon-hole] alternatives in2 an acceptable [moolah-bottom-line_"reality"] framework. mel, i do understand that in ur world's architecture [which has obviously come about thru ur own choice_set] u perceive this 2 b the only way 2 establish + maintain adequacy in terms of cultural formation[s]; i am just not convinced it's the only way; n.deed, i [+ a network of others] live the difference......

You get tired..

u do sound exhausted :/

Eg the facilitators of empyre change
cause no one can devote that much time to doing a community service when
they have to pay rent.

...whereas those of us that moderate the _arc.hive_ list have it set up on principles via which the lvl of moderator control [like that here on empyre] isn't necessary?

Perhaps you are alluding to romantic notions of symbiosis  where
interactions just happen and  neither party is harmed nor helped - process
similar to that of epiphytes - Air plants that absorb what they need from
the air through their leaves, not through their roots - so they are
unusually hardy and adaptive . You can put them in anything...seashells,
teacups, empty vases, driftwood...many people like to hang them on fishing
line. These truly are a perfect gift for plant lovers and for people who
can't grow anything... Ahh but i wander in pseudo-modernist reverie.

a loverly wandering, tho i'm b unkeen 2 equate my position with a type of romanticism if [by that] you're m.plying a lvl of fanciful projection that doesn't gel well with the practicalities of how this all manifests?

Then there are the benefactors who give you money for nothing, people who
don't seem to want anything but the good of media arts.. But if one objects
to  western capitalism so much then all money is sullied and must be

i'm not sure how 2 respond 2 this type of x.treme polarising; i'm not advocating a complete rejection of western capitalism @ all but am rather trying 2 offer a modality description that doesn't display n.trinsic/absolutist economic rationalism @ its core ?

I changed my mind about second life cause i realised i was being an arrogant
intellectual wanker of the worst kind.. holding a high moral ground on the
basis of my phd research - i was forewarned by the lovely Neal Stephenson of
the social hierarchies surrounding white thrash off the shelf Brandy avatars
and i believed anything i could create would be far superior..  Someone
pointed out to me another perspective on how perverse the whole of second
life representation is. And i saw the wonderment of that world  and error of
my ways..  I truly appreciate Eva and Franco Mattes 13 most beautiful
avatars series.

fair enuff.


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