Re: [-empyre-] following

hi Danny

I guess to make only a personal observation: for my own practice:. Maybe because I pathetically soldier on still trying for something 'real' (in this melancholy paradise), Lacan interesting for locating 'real' in the productive space outside of x (nowhere/woman) in jouissance (Ecrits) (in my 'naxsmash, Carrizo parkfield....') ; a topology; Foucault especially interesting to me in term of the analysis of speaking truth to power (Fearless Speech, thanks to Semiotexte) (for "Aphasia / Parrhesia" Deleuze really gets into slugging it out, making something durable fold by unfold, heavy construction (Cinema 2 and the Logic of Sensation (for "La Conchita mon amour") . With JB though there's a delicious irreverence and tactical play in the Conspiracy of Art, I laughed out loud reading it, the pataphysical, which maybe somehow enjoys some flip arounds with queer theory, but I 've never read anyone scholarly about such a connection. When you think of the great resonant names of feminism,

Helene Cixhous, Judith Butler, Luce Irigaray, Julie Kristeva, Martha Rosler, and so many more powerful thinkers..... surely their ideas resonate to each others' , in such complex terms that the question you ask, I guess about who of the old boys, and we haven't even mentioned Derrida and his abymes yet! == have been most useful,.........begs the point that well probably we've stolen from everybody and nobody with impunity.


On Mar 11, 2007, at 7:28 PM, Danny Butt wrote:

To maybe approach the question differently now that "Baudrillard in relation to his peers" has come up:

The three "names" Ken mentions, as well as slipping easily into "unquestioned academic practices", have also been useful for self- consciously feminist work (though Deleuze less so, empirically). Something makes me think this is more than mere coincidence, and that there might be more than militancy or academicism that differentiates Baudrillard's work from the others - after all, feminism has a history of both militancy and exclusion from the academy.

Aliette, this enquiry has no relation to your question about Sontag's sexuality. I'm asking the question of the texts and the methodology, rather than the person behind them.

On 11/03/2007, at 3:17 PM, McKenzie Wark wrote:

There was a politics to one's choice of theorist in the 80s in the
Anglophone world, and perhaps still. What i admired about Lyotard and
Baudrillard is that they were ex militants. This is not true of
Foucault, Derrida or Deleuze. Its no accident that the attempt to keep
a traditional scholarly practice at arms length collapses in the cases
of Foucault, Derrida and Deleuze, who all now slip easily into
unquestioned academic practices.


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