[-empyre-] Welcome to Mickey
norie5 at mac.com
Thu Nov 15 09:11:27 EST 2007
morning reflections before breakfast in the antipodes
On 14/11/2007, at 8:09 PM, John Hopkins wrote:
> morning reflections/questions before breakfast...
> what happens when we cannot remember where we left the list of
> things to remember?
or forget to write a list of things to remember
> what happens when all memory is external? will this mean that we
> will be living in the perfect Zen dream of be-here-now? or that we
> would be constantly repeating our mistakes?
given how often i repeat my mistakes... maybe it'd be a relief not to
realise.... no memory no realisation? I can see the appeal of Zen.
> as for errors, is there a difference between internal embodied
> memory errors and external disembodied memory errors? are there
> different consequences? False memory could be dangerous in terms
> of survival...
depends if we know they're errors -- the (social-technical) tendancy
to believe the veracity of the disembodied is strong, don't you think?
> I don't see a difference in preserving any (material) form of
> external memory. it is a thermo-dynamic function. without a more-
> or-less constant influx of energy to maintain order, memory will
> dissolve into its component energies and dissipate into the
> background radiation of the universe -- ensuring that there is a
> constant source of low-level memory of what the universe is
> composed of.
if this isn't already the inspiration for a sci-fi novel, it should
be. to me, it's where physics and poetry cross...
> Maintaining an archive requires energy. Doing documentation
> requires that (at least someone's) attention be focused on both
> archive (future) and the process itself (present). Each time the
> Self makes a document there is at least a partial stepping-out of
> lived experience into the abstracted world of the document. It is
> in this abstracted world where we are most in danger of losing
> connection to primary experience and ultimately our embeddedness in
> the continuum which is all.
but you can momentarily forget can't you... suspend that sense of the
abstracted world... in the zone of play?
> Representation forces us to step out. Can one live by the act of
> representation, or ???
> When we step out, where do we go?
> Of course documentation can be a re-presentative act in itself.
> one which places the observer at that place at that time which is
> different than subsequent after-the-fact re-play...
> There would also be the quantum thought of the observer affecting
> that which is observed, as well... something that has fundamental
> Norie -- could you define 'performative encounter' in more detail?
> (vs 'straight' documenting?)
these last ones requires breakfast... more later...
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