[-empyre-] Frente 3 de Fevereiro forward
poopstarr at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 3 08:55:47 EST 2008
I have some comments but also a question first!
Felipe you mentioned affirmative action and I was wondering if you could tell me what that looks like in Brasil.
You mentioned it as being related to wider discussion so i am just wondering....
--- On Sat, 5/31/08, Eduardo Molinari <archivocaminante at yahoo.com.ar> wrote:
> From: Eduardo Molinari <archivocaminante at yahoo.com.ar>
> Subject: Re: [-empyre-] Frente 3 de Fevereiro forward
> To: "soft_skinned_space" <empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>, "Jennifer Flores Sternad" <jf at post.harvard.edu>
> Date: Saturday, May 31, 2008, 11:51 AM
> Hi Felipe and Daniel!
> hi Brian, hi all,
> never is late!!!
> thank you for your words.
> Close to the end,
> I want to say thank you very much to Jennifer,
> that invites me to this big and intense dialogue.
> Also to Cristina, Brian and all.
> I really have many new questions in my brainnnnn!
> I wish that our reflections bring to us new tools for our
> fight against a world without social justice
> and also to find a new relation with nature.
> All the best for all,
> from Buenos Aires (in the middle of the "Soja
> muchas gracias,
> Eduardo Molinari / Archivo Caminante
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> --- El sáb 31-may-08, brian whitener
> <iwaslike at hotmail.com> escribió:
> > De: brian whitener <iwaslike at hotmail.com>
> > Asunto: [-empyre-] Frente 3 de Fevereiro forward
> > Para: empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
> > Fecha: sábado, 31 de mayo de 2008, 2:31 pm
> > Dear friends,
> > I sent this e-mail yesterday, but I still haven't
> > received it yet on the list.
> > Could you send it again for me, please?
> > And please explain that I sent it yesterday and not
> > Thank you very much.
> > Abrazos,
> > Felipe
> > Hi Everybody,
> > We, from the Frente 3 de Fevereiro, are really sorry
> > only contribute to this discussion in the end of it.
> > We
> > have been really busy in the last month finishing our
> > Album and improving our Website.
> > We have finished both.
> > We invite everybody to visit the new website:
> > http://www.frente3defevereiro.com.br/
> > The songs can be heard there and soon they will be
> > available for download at the website (June 10th).
> > We would like to contribute to the discussion first by
> > answering some questions that Brian Whitener has put
> > us.
> > The questions were:
> > 1) How these
> > critiques that are very
> > conscious of global geo-politics with very localized,
> > situated and
> > responsive interventions, are conceived (and how do
> > direct the work)?
> > 2) What are the
> > mechanisms of intervention?
> > 3) What can we learn from these groups and
> > artists (most of whom have 10 or more years of
> > 4) How can we
> > translate (conceptually, literally, and figurative)
> > these
> > experiences, contexts, and theorizations/embodiments
> > critique?
> > 5) And
> > how can we potenciate a new cycle of struggle?
> > 6)
> > What are the forces in your context (both situated and
> > historical)?
> > Globalization? Neoliberalism? Imperialism? (a related
> > question would
> > be: can the Argentinean experience from 1999-2003 be
> > collapsed into the
> > anti-globalization movement? What about Brazilian
> > movements? Are we
> > still in the neoliberal moment? Or its crisis? Or is
> > its
> > moment?)
> > 7) What does the current moment look like/feel like?
> > (for example in Mexico, there several strong insurgent
> > movements, APPO,
> > Zap, but in Mexico City we continue to watch and
> > Thus, our
> > moment is much different from the Argentinean moment).
> > 8) Current practices. What are you doing and why?
> > 9) One question you think we should be thinking about.
> > 10) The group started as
> > response to media, does it continue like this...?
> > 11) Can you talk more about
> > the idea of "the cartographer is a true cultural
> > cannibal¨"
> > 12) Is it accurate to say
> > that your practice is concerned with inventing new
> ways of
> > reading and writing desires, therefore inventing new
> > of
> > sociability?
> > 13) Current projects?
> > Here are the Answers:
> > 1)
> > Our group was formed with a very clear and specific
> > objective: to
> > reflect and act upon the racism issue in Brazilian
> > Of course,
> > from that we could connect this issue with other
> > that are more
> > ample, and more global (like immigration problems, or
> > incarceration processes, etc.). Since the
> > beginning we have questioned exclusion and
> > oppression mechanisms like the racist bias in the
> > action, the
> > architecture of exclusion of our cities, the industry
> > fear, the
> > security bubbles created in our
> > society and the criminalization and mass confinement
> > policies that
> > have targeted mainly black young people. The critique
> > from the
> > identification of some sort of "urgency"
> that we
> > feel and that we
> > consider that others also feel it. From this
> > identification, we try to
> > find elements or symbols that could help us reveal the
> > mechanisms and
> > contradictions surrounding the urgency context. The
> > intervention
> > in the public space brings us new elements to make the
> > urgency
> > situation evident and to provoke a reflection about
> it. So,
> > the
> > critique of the mechanisms that creates urgencies is
> > the
> > starting point to our work, which seeks to not only
> > the critique
> > public, but to foster a reflections in the public
> about the
> > problem.
> > 2)
> > To elaborate the intervention, we try to find a
> > and artistic
> > way to expose the urgency. We also try to find cracks
> > the systems
> > that controls the public spaces, so that we can use
> > cracks that
> > are not foreseen by the system to foster a reflection
> > the public
> > space. The target are the people who are on the public
> > space of the
> > action, but also, if it is possible to find a crack in
> > media
> > system, the possible viewers of the media system. For
> > example, we
> > opened huge flags with messages questioning the racism
> > football
> > games, so we got to the public watching the game at
> > stadium, but we
> > also got the TV to show it live, so we reached
> > who was
> > watching the game. After that we also try to organize
> > artistic
> > presentation (with music, video and performance) to
> > even more
> > people and new publics. This different arts combine to
> > create an artistic dialogue and discourse that allows
> > different
> > appropriations from the viewers. So, the artistic and
> > political are always together in our work.
> > 3)
> > When we exchange experiences with other groups, we get
> > contact with
> > other realities, which helps us to understand better
> > mechanism of
> > the processes that we confront in the local context,
> > that are also
> > linked to global processes. We also get in touch with
> > ways of
> > action and their relations to the specific contexts.
> > gives us the
> > opportunity to reflect about our own conceptions and
> > practices. So,
> > both our knowledge of our reality and our creative
> > can enlarge
> > in contact with other groups.
> > 4) We consider that we can
> > translate these experiences by two ways. One is by
> > analyzing their
> > local context and how it relates to global processes
> > compare this
> > to how our local context also relates to global
> > The other is
> > by analyzing their strategies and its relations to the
> > local context
> > and then understanding the differences and
> similarities of
> > these
> > relations with the relations between our strategies
> and our
> > local
> > contexts. Again, this allows us to translate these
> > experiences as to
> > their realities and to their methodologies or
> > 5)
> > This is a really difficult question. We don't
> > that anyone has the
> > final answer to it. For now, we believe that we have
> > keep exchanging
> > experiences between our groups and creating
> > networks. But
> > these networks shouldn't be just for discussing,
> > must be useful to
> > create partnerships for mew works, that is, they must
> > the
> > different groups not only to share experiences, but to
> > groups from
> > different contexts to work together in some other
> > contexts. Here
> > we agree with Bijari about the
> > "situação-relacional" ("relational
> > situation").
> > 6) In the reality of our country, we can identify
> > some of this forces like neoliberalism or imperialism.
> > the kind of
> > forces that we more directly deal with are
> > and
> > anti-social mechanisms that create exclusion in the
> > and in its
> > public spaces. These (and the forces related to them
> > mass
> > incarceration and increasing violence in the urban
> > conflicts) are the
> > processes that have a more direct effect on us. Of
> > they are
> > connected to the more general forces, like
> > ; also
> > but we try to act upon the more concrete ways in which
> > these general
> > processes really affect peoples lives, so we deal more
> > these other
> > more "local" forces. We are not sure if it
> > clear that the Brazilian
> > movements are related to the anti-globalization
> > Of course,
> > there is influence (it is not a coincidence that the
> > World
> > Social Forums were here), but also, the reality of
> most of
> > the people
> > here is very distant from such global discussions.
> > Just as a personal
> > note, I consider that neoliberalism is actually in
> > and that we
> > are experiencing some kind of post-neoliberal moment
> > only in Latin
> > America, but also in the world.
> > 7) In Brazil, we have two
> > contradictory movements going on. One is a much wider
> > discussion on
> > topics like public security, affirmative action,
> > criminalization,
> > incarceration policies and social exclusion and
> > On the
> > other hand, there is a conservative reaction that
> > the idea of
> > the fear of the urban criminal violence and therefore
> > creates support
> > for more oppression and penalization. So this is a
> > moment in
> > Brazil and we still don't know which way the
> > will follow.
> > Therefore, the social mobilization is critical to
> > the
> > direction that we think is right. We consider our work
> > important
> > in this context to contribute to a more democratic,
> > inclusive and
> > public society, with new forms of sociability.
> > 8)
> > We just finished a music album, which was the third
> part of
> > a work that
> > included a documentary and a book. Right now we are
> > developing a
> > project that will discuss the issues of the geography
> > exclusion in
> > three different contexts: Johannesburg, São Paulo and
> > Berlin. This will
> > help us to reflect about the mechanisms of exclusion
> > the potentials
> > of overcoming barriers in really different realities.
> > 9) Some questions:
> > What are the possibilities to
> > break the established order and in which way they can
> > contribute to
> > emancipation?
> > How can we scape from
> > criminalization?
> > What are the mechanisms that
> > create exclusion in the cities?
> > 10)
> > Actually, we don't really respond to the media. We
> > advantage of
> > some facts that the media are making public and use
> them to
> > question
> > established ideas about racism and exclusion, reaching
> > public that
> > gets in touch with these issues trough the media. We
> > act this way.
> > 11)
> > This idea means that the cartographer appropriates
> > of
> > everything around him so that he can poetically
> express new
> > forms of
> > reading and writing his desires, that which makes him
> > and act. In
> > this way, he uses everything he can from the world to
> > create new and
> > multiple practices, ways of understanding and forms of
> > sociability.
> > This is what we try to do.
> > 12) That is exactly our ultimate goal.
> > 13)
> > As we said, we just finished the music album and the
> > website, we
> > are developing the Johannesburg-São Paulo-Berlin
> > and we are
> > trying to develop a project to take the group to the
> > to discuss
> > the connections between the Prison Industrial Complex,
> > Racism and
> > Immigration issues.
> > Sorry for the very long e-mail.
> > And sorry for contributing just at the end of the
> > discussion.
> > We are open for further discussion, questions, or
> > Thank you very much,
> > Felipe and Daniel - Frente 3 de
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