[-empyre-] Question

Jeremy Douglass jeremydouglass at gmail.com
Fri Jun 20 02:53:40 EST 2008

On writing that is or isn't spam:

Depending on how you define it, spam is unsolicited commercial  
content, or unwanted content in general, or communications  
statistically similar to previously identified unwanted content.  A  
great deal of public art, architecture, commercial signage etc. (both  
legal and illegal) is 'unwanted content' for large groups of people  
who would block it if they could. Any message that seems out-of- 
context, surprising, attention-grabbing, or simply not the norm could  
be rightly accused of being spam - unless as in the case of approved  
public art some powerful institution declares it 'wanted' by fiat.   
All this is to say that I'm not sure appearing in-spam-like in the  
general semse is either interesting or possible.

  -- Jeremy

On Jun 18, 2008, at 18:37, "Jaimes Mayhew" <jaimes.mayhew at gmail.com>  

> I think that what has been posted so far, if happened upon on the  
> internet might appear to be spam at first, but I wonder about the  
> curiosity of people to google "lostempyre" when they see it... I  
> would.
> The idea of the narrative of a person looking for an ex could be  
> found by stumbling upon a post, and using a search engine to find  
> out more about it is a kind of graffiti. What kind of content would  
> you ever get out of reading your spam, anyway???
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Jason Nelson <heliopod at yahoo.com>  
> wrote:
> Sure......I suppose the same could be said for much of experimental
> fiction or abstract art etc....the idea that unexpected posts might
> appear to be spam at first is a valid concern.....
> but much like graffiti or other tagging, the art comes from posting
> something that both "fits in that net space" and creates an  
> interesting
> part of a narrative or simply a pretty micro fiction or even a non
> sensical poem....
> these places where users can enter data and briefly express themselves
> are quickly becoming a powerful form of written communication and
> therefore we creative types must begin to explore those conduits
> as venues/canvasses for interesting words....
> so I suppose I would throw it back to you and say write something
> that doesnt seem spam like.....
> cheers, Jason
> --- On Wed, 6/18/08, sdv at krokodile.co.uk <sdv at krokodile.co.uk> wrote:
> > From: sdv at krokodile.co.uk <sdv at krokodile.co.uk>
> > Subject: [-empyre-] Question
> > To: empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
> > Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 11:44 AM
> > All,
> >
> > Reading a few of the notes that have been written on the
> > net, I realized that I could see no difference between the
> > text and the average piece of spam that is automatically
> > deleted either from emails or sites.
> >
> > What justification can you produce for this proliferation
> > of text?
> >
> > s
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