[-empyre-] Question

Jeremy Douglass jeremydouglass at gmail.com
Sat Jun 21 03:04:16 EST 2008

To (hopefully) clarify my position, I don't claim that *all spam is  
art*, but rather that *some art is also spam*. That unsolicited  
messages can be artful isn't really a radical redefinition of art - it  
seems to me more a commonsense observation on the facts of art  
history, in every medium, whether rag broadsides or digital bulletin  
board posts.

  -- Jeremy

On Jun 19, 2008, at 12:19, "sdv at krokodile.co.uk" <sdv at krokodile.co.uk>  

> Jason/all
> One of the now defunkt net-art lists was once inhabited by a net- 
> artist who used to glory in the idea of spam-as-art, s/he had no  
> reason, logical or otherwise for declaring that the spam and porn   
> was  art but did so anyway. I suppose your justification is better  
> than his, but if seperated from the in-joke it still seems to suffer  
> from the same problem that 'spam-as-art' did, namely that it  
> vanishes into the ever increasing amounts of endless rubbish that  
> constitutes the net.
> However this snail mail joke is charming and might be suitably  
> random  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/help/4162471.stm...
> s
> Jason Nelson wrote:
>> Sure......I suppose the same could be said for much of experimental
>> fiction or abstract art etc....the idea that unexpected posts might
>> appear to be spam at first is a valid concern.....
>> but much like graffiti or other tagging, the art comes from posting
>> something that both "fits in that net space" and creates an  
>> interesting
>> part of a narrative or simply a pretty micro fiction or even a non
>> sensical poem....
>> these places where users can enter data and briefly express  
>> themselves
>> are quickly becoming a powerful form of written communication and
>> therefore we creative types must begin to explore those conduits
>> as venues/canvasses for interesting words....
>> so I suppose I would throw it back to you and say write something
>> that doesnt seem spam like.....
>> cheers, Jason
>> --- On Wed, 6/18/08, sdv at krokodile.co.uk <sdv at krokodile.co.uk> wrote:
>>> From: sdv at krokodile.co.uk <sdv at krokodile.co.uk>
>>> Subject: [-empyre-] Question
>>> To: empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
>>> Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 11:44 AM
>>> All,
>>> Reading a few of the notes that have been written on the
>>> net, I realized that I could see no difference between the
>>> text and the average piece of spam that is automatically
>>> deleted either from emails or sites.
>>> What justification can you produce for this proliferation
>>> of text?
>>> s
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