[-empyre-] For whom is art "made"?

Eduardo Molinari archivocaminante at yahoo.com.ar
Mon May 12 22:44:31 EST 2008

I'm with you GH,
when I talk about "images", I was tryng to
say that we are talking about visual art... today,
and today image-sound-words are visual art.
But, all these tools, also our bodies,
are our competence inside of contemporary visual art sistem.
I mean, is not teather, dance, music field.
I'm not tryng to divide for nothing,
but is hard to think about "art" without
some specifications.
Also, is still no clear if we are talking
about private or public culture, in your words.

About "manufacturing". Yes, I know that sounds capitalistic,
but is not the sense for me of this expression.
I'm tryng to be incisive with the concept of "cultural industry",
because this is a blanket that covers our work,
specially in the "third world".
An industry without workers? an industry without manufactures?
is a border, I know, but is a tool for our discussion,
because our "manufactures", our "work"
could be defined with another words, but...
how lives an artist?

is a little funny that we don't like to "manufacture" images,
but we like to "sell" them?

GH, is really good to think together about this point,
thank you very much.

Eduardo Molinari / Archivo Caminante
Aramburu 880, Dto.1 (1640) Martínez
Provincia de Buenos Aires – Argentina
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--- El sáb 10-may-08, G.H. Hovagimyan <ghh at thing.net> escribió:

> De: G.H. Hovagimyan <ghh at thing.net>
> Asunto: Re: [-empyre-] For whom is art "made"?
> Para: "soft_skinned_space" <empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
> Fecha: sábado, 10 de mayo de 2008, 10:22 am
> >  think that is better to define this. My answer is
> trying to think  
> > about this: manufacturing images today.
> gh comments:
>   I  disagree with this idea.  Art can be made from sound
> for example  
> or text or interventions that have no images other than an
> incidental  
> documentary image.  I even dislike the idea of
> "manufacturing."  It  
> represents a capitalist notion of making of objects to be
> used as a  
> commodity in the art market.  Indeed, the most advanced art
> ideas try  
> to neutralize the market and dispense with a fixed object/
> image. The  
> actual process is to enhance the creative experience for
> the artist  
> and those who participate in the process. It's a
> misnomer to call this  
> interactive art.  It may be more about creative situations.
>  It's not  
> about all the world becoming artists.  Thats another market
> ploy. That  
> odd notion is what is at the core of web 2.0 . The only
> possible  
> position for an artists is to define themselves in
> contradiction to  
> these notions. 
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