[-empyre-] Therefore, since brevity is the soul of wit....

sdv at krokodile.co.uk sdv at krokodile.co.uk
Thu Apr 30 19:35:43 EST 2009

Sorry I missed the implications of someone quoting shakespeare...  
actually I think it's more like Radio Alice


Terry Hargrave wrote:
> We're with Anna on this one.   does =empyre= mean Twitter meets talk 
> radio? 
> http://www.enotes.com/shakespeare-quotes/brevity-soul-wit
> Logo=rrhea :  the old bag of winds.  Polonius, in Hamlet.  "I will be 
> brief" and then....zzzzzz's later..........
>     *Polonius:*
>     My liege, and madam, to expostulate
>     What majesty should be, what duty is,
>     What day is day, night night, and time is time,
>     Were nothing but to waste night, day, and time;
>     Therefore, since brevity is the soul of wit,
>     And tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes,
>     I will be brief. Your noble son is mad. . . .
>     Hamlet Act 2, scene 2, 86–92
>     <http://www.enotes.com/hamlet-text/act-ii-scene-ii#ham-2-2-92>
> Polonius, right-hand man of Hamlet's stepfather, King Claudius, has 
> been employed to spy on the prince and report on his very odd 
> behavior. As Polonius begins to deliver to the king and queen the 
> results of his investigation, he embarks on this windy preface. 
> Besides being nonsensical, his speech is self-contradictory: he wastes 
> plenty of time denouncing the time wasted by rhetorical speechifying.
> "Brevity is the soul of wit" has become a standard English proverb; in 
> the process, its context has been somewhat neglected. Polonius, though 
> he has high opinions indeed of his "wit" (that is, acumen), is the 
> least brief and one of the least "witty" characters in the play. Freud 
> aptly referred to Polonius as "the old chatterbox" in /Jokes and their 
> Relation to the Unconscious/.
> *
> *
> On Apr 29, 2009, at 11:02 AM, sdv at krokodile.co.uk 
> <mailto:sdv at krokodile.co.uk> wrote:
>> anna,
>> what does "Nonrepresentability is not a quality but an effect"  and "you
>> can't attribute some 'thing' a nonontology!" mean ?
>> Especially important give what an ontology is.
>> steve
>> Anna Munster wrote:
>>> Actually I am not calling for 'strategy'. I am not calling for
>>> anything deterministic like 'how artists should respond' or 'what
>>> someone on this list must do'!!! I am asking,instead, for
>>> thoughtfulness among some people on the discussion this month!!
>>> Thought, requires effort, it requires looking into things and all I am
>>> suggesting is that these things are already all around us and indeed
>>> have been for many years in the form of very interesting engagements
>>> between artists and (as Simon has also suggested) a long period/series
>>> of crises.
>>> ...and while I am fully cognisant of the military overtones of that
>>> word, I was simply using it  to collectively denote a diversity of
>>> practices that have an 'investigative' thoughtful and hopeful response
>>> at their core. Some of these practices are also tactical – in the
>>> sense of tactical media, tactical biopolitics and so forth. Many are
>>> not. Many rely on affect and sensation as their means and end, in
>>> which case they are nonrepresentational and are certainly not aimed at
>>> some determinant outcome ie representing the nonrepresented. Rather
>>> they set off or produce affective environments and sensations that
>>> might also provide space for thought. Others might use this 'strategy'
>>> as well as critique - Hito Steyerl's 'Lovely Andrea' at the last
>>> Documenta  for example...
>>> Nonrepresentability is not a quality but an effect, btw...you can't
>>> attribute some 'thing' a nonontology!!
>>> One thing I have learned from this month's discussion is that
>>> speculative reason and speculative capital have never been more in bed
>>> with each other. When thought takes the form of arrogant
>>> generalisations it performs in similar ways to speculative capital.
>>> Forever trying to hedge itself against its own precarity and
>>> inevitable collapse.
>>> Anna
>>> On 29/04/2009, at 8:14 AM, Michael Angelo Tata, PhD wrote:
>>>> Or maybe what Anna is calling for is not strategy, which is primarily
>>>> totalizaing and singular, but tactics, which are fragmented,
>>>> dspersed, plural and framed in the absence of the God's-eye-view
>>>> perspective without which there are no totals, only partial sums?  I
>>>> am thinking again of Michel de Certeau.
>>>> *******************************************
>>>> *Michael Angelo Tata, PhD  347.776.1931-USA*
>>>> *http://www.MichaelAngeloTata.com/* <http://www.michaelangelotata.com/>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:09:05 -0700
>>>> From: editor at intertheory.org <mailto:editor at intertheory.org>
>>>> To: empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au 
>>>> <mailto:empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
>>>> Subject: Re: [-empyre-] Artists' responses to the so-called "crisis"
>>>> dear anna...interesting comments, though I wonder if your
>>>> representation of the non-representable is not a bit too theological
>>>> for my taste? And transformation is such a magical enterprise...
>>>> alchemically speaking, I do not suspect that attribution of a quality
>>>> such as 'non-representabililty' adds or subtracts to the strategic
>>>> authenticity or legitimacy of politics, responses or art, for that
>>>> matter. Strategies, in other words, are always fatal...to their
>>>> object, or to themselves. We all try to catch the falling the knife
>>>> with each attempt at becoming, no?
>>>> Nicholas Ruiz III, Ph.D
>>>> Editor, Kritikos
>>>> http://intertheory.org <http://intertheory.org/>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Anna Munster <A.Munster at unsw.edu.au 
>>>> <mailto:A.Munster at unsw.edu.au>
>>>> <mailto:A.Munster at unsw.edu.au>>
>>>> *To:* soft_skinned_space <empyre at gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au 
>>>> <mailto:empyre at gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
>>>> <mailto:empyre at gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au>>
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 25, 2009 3:48:56 AM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [-empyre-] Artists' responses to the so-called "crisis"
>>>> Sorry Nikos but as to your rhetorical 'no' below, I resoundingly
>>>> reply NO WAY!!. There is a world of difference between responding
>>>> (rather than reacting which is really what Joseph is talking about)
>>>> to a social, economic and political crisis using aesthetic strategies
>>>> and techniques vs. the 'arts' of finance, government or whatever
>>>> other institution you want to aestheticise.
>>>> (a la Benjamin et al).
>>>> The examples that Nik and Marc are talking about (and also what Brian
>>>> Holmes has been involved with) are emphatically not abut knee jerk
>>>> response or reaction but are about using nonrepresentational
>>>> aesthetic strategies - among a multitude of strategies which also
>>>> include activist, semiotic, political, social and affective ones –
>>>> to /transform/ subjective and collective situations. These are
>>>> immanent, critical, positive and productive relationships with crisis
>>>> ie they do not respond /to / crisis but rather work amid, through and
>>>> via crisis to work with what might be transformative about crises.
>>>> And these aesthetic strategies are absolutely everywhere both in and
>>>> out of the 'art world' eg Critical Art Ensemble, Harwood and
>>>> Mongrel,16Beaver, rebublicart project, The Senselab, eipcp, Make
>>>> World, edu factory, The Thing, Serial Space (sydney -based for all
>>>> you North Americans who need to get out more ;-)  etc etc etc. And
>>>> these are just the artists/collectives/projects - there's also a
>>>> wealth of brilliant art theory around this - try Hito Steyerl, Gerald
>>>> Raunig, Brian Holmes, Matthew Fuller, Florian Schneider, Brian
>>>> Massumi all the FLOSS+art etc etc etc
>>>> There is NO relation between these kind of politics, responses and
>>>> aesthetics and the 'art' of finance - except a relation of revulsion.
>>>> On the other hand, if you want to find out about a really fantastic
>>>> installation that engaged directly with the stock market and in fact
>>>> used a gambling syndicate's money to trade stocks as part of the
>>>> actual art work - have a look at Micheal Goldberg's documentation of
>>>> his 2002 work 'Catch a Falling Knife'
>>>> (http://www.michael-goldberg.com/main.html - go into Projects and
>>>> select the title of the piece).
>>>> Just another point I'd like to make about this month's discussion - I
>>>> have found some of the posts scary and stupid in their absolute lack
>>>> of knowledge about anything that is going on about contemporary art,
>>>> aesthetic strategies and politics. I really think some people need to
>>>> do a bit of preliminary research and investigation before they start
>>>> sounding off about  how boring or naive the concept of aesthetically
>>>> responding to crisis is,
>>>> Best Anna
>>>> On 24/04/2009, at 10:36 PM, Nicholas Ruiz III wrote:
>>>>    nk...another aspect of interest is the way in which the financial
>>>>    realm in itself is a creative act, and artful...with all of the
>>>>    discussion revolving around the perception/reading parallax, I
>>>>    wonder how people in the artistic/academic community may not
>>>>    perceive/read financial creativity as art at all...I suspect such
>>>>    financial activity is a form of art, which contains all of the
>>>>    aspirations, triumphs and failures that any art project may
>>>>    enable, no?
>>>>    nikos
>>>>    Nicholas Ruiz III, Ph.D
>>>>    Editor, Kritikos
>>>>    http://intertheory.org <http://intertheory.org/>
>>>>    ----- Original Message ----
>>>>    From: nick knouf <nak44 at cornell.edu <mailto:nak44 at cornell.edu>>
>>>>    To: -empyre- <empyre at gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au 
>>>> <mailto:empyre at gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
>>>>    <mailto:empyre at gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au>>
>>>>    Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 1:07:11 PM
>>>>    Subject: [-empyre-] Artists' responses to the so-called "crisis"
>>>>    Dear empyre,
>>>>    It's strange that it's the 16th of the month (at least where I
>>>>    am), yet
>>>>    there has been little sustained discussion of present-day artistic
>>>>    responses to this so-called financial "crisis"--one that exists in a
>>>>    mythical realm of numbers-that-we-cannot-perceive, but that 
>>>> sadly has
>>>>    very real impacts on people.  Responses by students, academics, and
>>>>    activists have not been limited to the resignation of 
>>>> acceptance, nor
>>>>    abstract theorizing in and of itself, but rather have taken, at
>>>>    times,
>>>>    forms of protest and occupation throughout the world, as well as
>>>>    direct
>>>>    actions against banking institutions.  (See, in particular the
>>>>    story of
>>>>    Enric Duran:
>>>>    http://news.infoshop.org/article.php?story=20090319182858556 and
>>>>    http://17-s.info/en .)  How then might we understand these actions
>>>>    within the context of our own theorizing activities?
>>>>    This should reflect a special concern as to the impact of this
>>>>    "crisis"
>>>>    on academic and cultural institutions.  Indeed, the occupations and
>>>>    protests at schools---NYU, the New School, University of Rochester,
>>>>    institutions in Italy and France and Spain and...---suggest the deep
>>>>    worry that many have regarding how the "crisis" might ultimately
>>>>    move to
>>>>    transform culture and learning into more and more reified situations
>>>>    governed by numbers and the market.  (The Bologna process is
>>>>    coming to
>>>>    the
>>>>    states: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/09/education/09educ.html .)
>>>>    In response there have been discussions and interviews about how
>>>>    we can
>>>>    use this time of "crisis" to develop new models that exist in
>>>>    parallel
>>>>    to concurrent struggles to force governments to provide for the 
>>>> basic
>>>>    needs of people.  (See in particular "Interviewing the Crisis":
>>>>    http://www.interviewingthecrisis.org/ .)  How might we then
>>>>    reconsider
>>>>    actions and activities of the past and present and future---TAZs,
>>>>    tactical media, pirate radio, and many, many, more---in light of
>>>>    calls
>>>>    for more standardization and more "accountability"?
>>>>    And whither the academic institution?  Corporations have fairly free
>>>>    reign in many departments at colleges and universities in the United
>>>>    States.  Are we to expect even more of these so-called
>>>>    "public-private
>>>>    partnerships" in the future?  What is the role of the institution in
>>>>    producing the people who created the "crisis" in the first place?
>>>>     Who
>>>>    will follow the links between the powerful actors in order to map
>>>>    their
>>>>    impact?
>>>>    I present here a recent project of mine that is my own attempt to
>>>>    face
>>>>    some of these issues.  MAICgregator (http://maicgregator.org
>>>>    <http://maicgregator.org/>) is a
>>>>    Firefox extension that aggregates information about colleges and
>>>>    universities embedded in the military-academic-industrial (MAIC)
>>>>    complex. It searches government funding databases, private news
>>>>    sources,
>>>>    private press releases, and public information about trustees to
>>>>    try and
>>>>    produce a radical cartography of the modern university via the
>>>>    replacement or overlay of this information on academic websites.
>>>>    MAICgregator is available for download right now:
>>>>    http://maicgregator.org/download .  If you want to see what
>>>>    MAICgregator
>>>>    does to a website without downloading it, you can look at some
>>>>    screenshots: http://maicgregator.org/docs/screenshots .  This is its
>>>>    first public release, so expect that things might not work properly.
>>>>    I have written an extensive statement about MAICgregator that
>>>>    tries to
>>>>    contextualize it within discourses of net.art, the
>>>>    military-academic-industrial complex, "data mining", and activist
>>>>    artistic practices.  As the statement is rife with embedded links,
>>>>    please read it online:
>>>>    http://maicgregator.org/statement
>>>>    I welcome any feedback or discussion that this might provoke; if you
>>>>    want to e-mail the project authors directly, please e-mail info
>>>>    --at--
>>>>    maicgregator ---dot--- org.
>>>>    http://maicgregator.org/
>>>>    nick knouf
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>>>> Assistant Dean, Grant Support
>>>> Acting Director Centre for Contemporary Art and Politics
>>>> School of Art History and Art Education
>>>> College of Fine Arts
>>>> UNSW
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>>> Acting Director Centre for Contemporary Art and Politics
>>> School of Art History and Art Education
>>> College of Fine Arts
>>> UNSW
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>>> NSW 2021
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