[-empyre-] A Post-Futurist or a Neo-Baroque perception?

sdv at krokodile.co.uk sdv at krokodile.co.uk
Fri May 8 20:07:49 EST 2009

I must disagree with the idea that a new programming language or 
software tool can be learning in a couple of weeks.

In fact everything suggests that it takes many years to become a good 
software engineer,  the instant gratification of 'a couple of weeks' is 
a phantasy. As for the rest - well network society is terminally 
heirarchical and has created the deepest class society in known history. 
Democratization does not begin to describe how heirarchical our 
societies have become. Information is equivalent except that the 
information being considered has zero value...

Is your time the same as a Mumbai slum dweller ?

G.H. Hovagimyan wrote:
> Manifestos are really old fashioned especially in the digital age.  
> Information systems are constantly being changed and updated.  The  
> truth is that any programming language or software tool can be  
> learned in a couple of weeks. In terms of manifestos the only rule I  
> find interesting is the one that is about the democratization of art,  
> this is the consequence of the networks.  All information is  
> equivalent on the networks. Time and space really don't exist or  
> rather all information exists at the same time on the networks. The  
> meaning of any bit of information is created by it's use. This goes  
> back to Wittgenstein's axiom, the meaning of word is it's meaning and  
> the meaning of a word is it's use.
> Since I am an artists, the meaning that I create is art.  As an  
> example my group Artists Meeting is doing a series of video shows of  
> curated youTube videos.  We use the found material to create art.   
> This is a consequence or result of web 2.0 and the democratization of  
> art.  Here's a link -- http://artistsmeeting.org
> On May 7, 2009, at 12:01 PM, stamatia portanova wrote:
>> In short, my final question is: given our intensive, Post-Futurist  
>> conception of time, how do we critically respond to the small-scale  
>> quantifications and restrictions, or accelerations, of space-time  
>> by digital technology, without going back to a simultaneous  
>> chronological and metric conceptions? In the end, one moment can be  
>> as long as a life...
> G.H. Hovagimyan
> http://nujus.net/~gh/
> http://artistsmeeting.org
> http://transition.turbulence.org/Works/plazaville
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