[-empyre-] chris sullivan p.S.
csulli at saic.edu
Tue Feb 16 11:41:56 EST 2010
by the way, I show power and water in my "not quite animation" day in my
alternative animation history class. It is a wonderful film. you should all try
to get Pat out to show The Decay OF Fiction, his amazing film, that
unfortunately he does not like, but I sure do. Chris.
Quoting christopher sullivan <csulli at saic.edu>:
> Hi Eric, I do think that certain technologies or circumstances dictate trends
> work. For instance the non verbal history of independent art films in the
> and 80's, was directly related to issues of french versus English in Canada,
> and the fact that the Netherlands, Italy, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, where
> important places that could not count on language to engage a wider world.
> And for that matter the frame by frame process does break down time and lead
> different ways of looking at the world. But I am questioning starting with
> formal notions of Code, or digital culture as subjects. I guess it gets back
> notions of modernist painting, which is about putting color on a flat
> All of the great works that I am attracted to in animation, have something
> inherently frame by frame about them, but there is an underlying content
> is being negotiated.
> I think that animation because of it's labor, tends to give birth to the
> wondering pilgrim, the emptied city, the lone figure in a minimal world,
> because you just can't draw fifty people, CGI is changing this, but these
> limits are good too. They are like the limits of independent theater, no
> numbers, no effects, just words and a few bodies. I also think that the
> of animation, create a need to condense time, in ways that live action does
> and this leads to it's odd sense of time, I hope you have all seen Cat Soup,
> amazing time play in that film.
> Quoting Eric Patrick <ericp at northwestern.edu>:
> > Hello All,
> > Eric Patrick here. Rather than repeat my bio, I'll just jump right
> > in... I've been making animated films now for twenty years, and the one
> > thing I've become convinced of is that animation is a ritual act. My
> > own work underscores this in it's experiments with narrative without the
> > confines of character development or plot... rather, I often find
> > myself creating associative connections over causal ones. I'm certainly
> > not the first that has noticed this, but perhaps all animators find it
> > on their own terms... small repetitive acts, done over long periods of
> > time... a withdrawal from day to day life. The very act seems like a
> > description of an alchemist's chamber, saying a rosary, kabuki theatre.
> > In my particular case, I choose a technique that in some way comments on
> > the ideas embedded in my work. This is one of those things that I find
> > to be unique about animation (though I would argue that new media has
> > this ability too): the ability to orchestrate the concept into the very
> > fabric of the image through the technique that is utilized. It's that
> > relationship between form and content that makes animation quite so
> > unique. That these techniques involve increasingly preoccupied states
> > of consciousness only adds to the ritual effect of animation. It's no
> > wonder then that we can see such a wide interest in metaphysics
> > throughout animation history.
> > As an animator stepping into a group dedicated to new media, I'm
> > interested in finding where my experience may cross over with yours.
> > Perhaps we can also weave with Chris Sullivan's intro, because, as he
> > states that technology is a tool but not a subject, I am almost
> > inferring that the process can become a subject. I have shown Pat
> > O'Neil's work "Water and Power" to students, and interestingly, they
> > told me that it completely changed their relationship to after effects.
> > O'Neil's work somehow seems like it could only be conceived and executed
> > on an optical printer, though it can obviously very easily be created
> > with something like after effects. While I agree that technology is a
> > tool, do certain tools not engender certain kinds of work?
> > best,
> > Eric
> Christopher Sullivan
> Dept. of Film/Video/New Media
> School of the Art Institute of Chicago
> 112 so michigan
> Chicago Ill 60603
> csulli at saic.edu
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Dept. of Film/Video/New Media
School of the Art Institute of Chicago
112 so michigan
Chicago Ill 60603
csulli at saic.edu
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