[-empyre-] art and ethics

Timothy Murray tcm1 at cornell.edu
Sat Jan 23 03:26:18 EST 2010

>Nick, could you explain your reference to the recent Supreme Court 
>ruling to our -empyre- community, since a major proportion of our 
>-empyreans- live outside the US?  I'm also wondering why you think 
>that a ruling regarding political lobbying (if this is what you're 
>referencing) would unleash a genre of corporatist art.

Thanks so much.


>international participants...but how to de-link these states seems 
>impenetrable - like the recent Supreme Court ruling that will 
>certainly unleash a whole new genre of freely circulating 
>corporatist art, no?
>From: Johanna Drucker <drucker at gseis.ucla.edu>
>To: jhaber at haberarts.com; soft_skinned_space <empyre at gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
>Sent: Mon, January 11, 2010 8:12:46 PM
>Subject: Re: [-empyre-] empyre Digest, Vol 62, Issue 13
>Much different. I agree.
>I do want to make a space for art that is not tasked with being the 
>moral conscience of the culture too.
>On Jan 11, 2010, at 4:09 PM, John Haber wrote:
>>  The analogy to rebranding is very interesting indeed, in an excellent
>>  post.  Let me ask more about it, though.  Now, to me it's only an
>>  analogy, and of course whatever venting we may wish to have about
>>  torture and Israeli policy aren't instantly illuminating regarding art
>>  except as a kind of red flag.  (Hey, there's injustice in the 
>>  world, so
>>  don't let it happen in this realm.)  Indeed, it could actually 
>>  disguise
>>  the problem, by suggesting distinct realms after all, which the whole
>>  problematic of complicity in art is supposed to question.  Thus, my
>>  question would be this:  if the political analogy is silence, then 
>>  does
>>  that open possibilities for art, in which making visible is part of 
>>  the
>>  game?  Now, I realize that acknowledging something, as argued well,
>>  doesn't make it go away.  But it's still different from silence.
>>  John
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Timothy Murray
Director, Society for the Humanities
Curator, The Rose Goldsen Archive of New Media Art, Cornell Library
Professor of Comparative Literature and English
A. D. White House
Cornell University
Ithaca, New York 14853

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