[-empyre-] networked self and the netopticon

De wraak van Baltassar Geraards ajaco at xs4all.nl
Wed Jan 26 22:06:58 EST 2011

Considering the 'self' as a societal AND an experiential construct, is  
the active, generative part of it responsible for the constraints it  
puts on the whole i.e. pan/netopticonal effects of the extended self  
as a 'world' generating agens?

And what are ways to overcome such an undesirable state of 'being' in  
that same prison of societal self experiencing?

Are you trying to say that 'we' just have to live with it as part of  
our 'own' intended development as human beings? Or should we break the  
whole idea of SELF and concentrate on the OTHER instead?

Just a few thoughts coming up reading your post


Andreas Maria Jacobs

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On 26 Jan 2011, at 11:20, "Simon Biggs" <s.biggs at eca.ac.uk> wrote:

> I like the way you describe the fragmented and plural self here  
> Heidi. Very
> much in tune with my own apprehension (and experience) of the subject.
> In respect of the netopticon/panopticon as part of that - I have  
> always
> found Freud's concept of the super-ego very useful in describing the  
> social
> dimension of self (although I struggle with his concepts of id and  
> ego a
> bit). If we accept that self is a negotiated state and that the  
> result is a
> socially reflexive self (a super-ego) then I would argue you could  
> conflate
> this with the idea of the panopticon/netopticon as an internalised
> apparatus. In this regard it becomes difficult to consider a "self"  
> without
> accepting the panoptic as an aspect of its ontology. This has both  
> positive
> and negative implications...
> Best
> Simon
> On 26/01/2011 00:57, "Heidi May" <mayh at ecuad.ca> wrote:
>> *"As we hand over to next week, we do wonder whether and how
>> individual responsibility is altered by being online and what effects
>> that has on us all, whether at the hands of panoptic forces or
>> not?"(Jon & Alison, Jan 22)*
>> My interests with the networked self are influenced by Calvin  
>> Schrag's
>> (1997) "The Self After Postmodernity," in which Schrag explores the
>> self in discourse, the self in action, the self in community, and the
>> self in transcendence. Although I am fascinated by this continual
>> desire we have to connect with and understand the self, I do not
>> believe a unitary self exists, however, I am not completely convinced
>> that the self is constructed entirely by social forces...which is  
>> why,
>> I guess, my work overall as a scholar/artist lies in-between the
>> phenomenological and constructive, and (schizophrenically, perhaps)  
>> in-
>> between the areas of art and education. To give you a little
>> background about my own multiple selves...As an artist, I work at
>> questioning and disrupting our relationships with technology in an
>> attempt to think and see something through a different lens. As a

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