[-empyre-] musings from the edge of scientific knowledge

David Hughes 19 davidhughes19 at btinternet.com
Mon Oct 31 19:47:14 EST 2011

Just to test a bit of water, Akram. You write:

""1) If the Universe began with the Big Bang – what happened to the
antimatter that ought to have been there? .i.e. what is the matter with
antimatter? Through an asymmetry in the early universe the laws of nature
were biased towards matter, which is why we are here at all but why?""

Does it follow, or is it possible, that whilst matter 'developed' to create
our visible universe anti-matter 'developed' to produce another, invisible,
or dark, universe? So is this where the idea of parallel worlds comes from?
Is this where the Bizarro worlds come from? I suppose our humanocentric
(what is the right, slightly pejorative, word for this inclination?)
thinking suggests that in the other universe there are anti-versions of
ourselves could it be that in another universe the logic of evolution has
generated very different 'life' forms?

Can I also just ask you about some of your language? Forgive me if this is
What is at stake in 'anti-matter'. This makes me think of the
fiction/non-fiction distinction. Non-fiction is something that does not have
the properties of fiction. Is anti-matter something which does not have the
properties of matter? So my question is why does matter matter? No,
seriously, why is matter privileged in the language.

(((Incidentally, I keep writing universe as univers (Univers is the name of
a realist sans-serif typeface designed by Adrian Frutiger in 1954.)))

Again what is at stake in the terms symmetry/asymmetry?

Not sure quite what I'm asking here but something might resonate with you.
So Please don't feel you have to answer every single bit of this. I think
I'm asking a philosophical question here not a cosmological one? OH dear, is
that pretentious?
Best wishes.


-----Original Message-----
From: empyre-bounces at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
[mailto:empyre-bounces at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au] On Behalf Of Akram Khan
Sent: 30 October 2011 22:44
To: soft_skinned_space
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] musings from the edge of scientific knowledge

Sondra what a wonderful insight! Here are a few more detail remarks....

What’s the matter with anti-matter? The mystery of CP violation:

The study of CP violation addresses a very fundamental question: are the
laws of physics the same for matter and anti-matter, or are matter and
anti-matter intrinsically different? The answer to this very question may
hold the key to solving the mystery of the matter-dominated Universe. 

According to the Big Bang theory, equal amounts of matter and anti-matter
were created at the beginning of times. When matter and anti-matter get in
contact, they annihilate into pure energy, producing photons and nothing
else. The relic of this primordial annihilation is the Cosmic Microwave
Background, the 2.7 Kelvin radiation that fills the entire Universe. But not
all of the matter annihilated into photons: about one out of every billion
quarks survived and originated the Universe as we know it today. How could
some matter survive the primordial annihilation? Where did the corresponding
anti-matter go? Why did matter survive over the anti-matter? 

In 1967 the Russian physicist Andrei Sakharov proposed a solution to this
puzzle. Sakharov’s explanation required the violation of what was considered
a fundamental symmetry of nature: the so-called CP symmetry. 

Is Nature CP symmetric? 

CP is a discrete symmetry of nature given by the product of two components:
the charge conjugation (C) and the parity (P). Charge conjugation transforms
a particle into the corresponding anti-particle: if we apply C to an
electron, we will obtain a positron. In other words, charge conjugation maps
matter into anti-matter. Parity is the transformation that inverts the space
coordinates: if we apply P to an electron moving with a velocity   from left
to right, the electron will flip the direction and end up moving with a
velocity  , from right to left. In other words, parity produces the mirror
image of reality. 

Therefore, when we apply a CP transformation to an electron moving with a
velocity   from left to right, we will obtain a positron moving with a
velocity  , from right to left. This means that CP gives us the mirror image
of the anti-matter. Naively, we would expect that the anti-matter to behave
just as the matter, with the exception of swapping “right” and “left”: after
all, we would be very surprised if our image in the mirror would behave
differently from us! But is this always the case? In other words, is CP a
good symmetry of Nature? 

Both electromagnetic and strong interactions are symmetric under C and P,
therefore they must also be symmetric under the product CP. This is not
necessarily the case for the weak force, which maximally violates both C and
P symmetries, as demonstrated by Chien-Shiung Wu in 1957 in the study of the
decays of Cobalt-60. Until 1964, however, CP symmetry was naively assumed to
hold in weak interactions as well. One reason for this assumption was the
CPT theorem, which states that all quantum field theories must be symmetric
under a combined transformation of C, P and T (time reversal). CP violation
therefore implies violation of the time-reversal symmetry, which at the time
was beyond imagination. 

The discovery of CP violation came therefore completely unexpected in 1964,
when Val Fitch, Jim Cronin, and collaborators observed this phenomenon for
the first time in the study of the decays of neutral kaons, particles formed
by a strange quark and a down anti-quark. The observed effect was small, one
part in a thousand, but was extremely important because it proved that
matter and anti-matter are intrinsically different. For this discovery Fitch
and Cronin were awarded the Nobel Prize in 1980. 

It took us almost ten years to explain this phenomenon in the context of the
Standard Model of Particle Physics. In 1973, two Japanese physicists, Makoto
Kobayashi and Toshihide Maskawa, successfully explained CP violation  by
postulating the existence a third family of quarks, for which there was no
experimental evidence at the time. 

best wishes

From: empyre-bounces at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
[empyre-bounces at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au] On Behalf Of Sondra Fraleigh
[eastwest at q.com]
Sent: 26 October 2011 20:29
To: soft_skinned_space
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] musings from the edge of scientific knowledge

Thanks you so much Akram for this thought provoking post. I have been
convinced for years that physics has so much to offer artists, and I have
liked reading about the intersection of art and physics, wherever I find
those physicists who can make their very technical world available to
readers at large, and to perspectives on spirituality and the human also.

I'm saving your post because I have learned so much from you here, and now I
want to choreograph a work called. "What's the Matter with Antimatter"? I am
so fascinated with the idea you present- that through asymmetry in the early
universe, the laws of nature were biased toward matter, which is a
explanation of how we are here as a very symphony of matter, or I might want
to say, a symphony that continues to matter. I am also reminded that
"matter" is the basis for our word "mother." I wrote about the mattering of
ourselves through the maternal, material, matter, materia, of the mother in
Dancing Identity: Metaphysics in Motion.

I get a bit out of the box though, because I turn toward the great mother
mythological concepts of the divine feminine, and the many names of the
divine mother in various cultures. Interesting how one can morph from
physics to mythology. Artists have this freedom, I think. Maybe physicists
do also. I don't know. You scientists probably have to keep your jobs, and
not get to crazy.

Best, Sondra
On Oct 26, 2011, at 2:44 AM, Akram Khan wrote:

It is not with a little trepidation that I make my first posting; during the
past few weeks I have found these thought-provoking discussions, at times,
floating over my scientific head.

As a particle physicist my professional career has been all about a constant
iterative process of formulating fundamental questions so that they are most
amenable to being solved: Of what is the universe made? How did it all
begin? What’ll be its ultimate fate?

In my opinion here are some of the most critical questions which if answered
will lead to a complete transformation of our understanding of what we are
and of our place in the universe.

1) If the Universe began with the Big Bang – what happened to the antimatter
that ought to have been there? .i.e. what is the matter with antimatter?
Through an asymmetry in the early universe the laws of nature were biased
towards matter, which is why we are here at all but why?

2) What are the ultimate constituents of matter? We start off with rainbows,
molecules, atoms, electrons, neutrons and protons.  The protons and neutrons
as made of “quarks”, two different types. So, the smallest experimentally
observed entities of matter are:  electrons;  muons,  taus , neutrinos and
the six quarks [plus their antimatter partners].  This begs the question, is
there another deeper, more fundamental level of reality not yet seen? And
the answer is maybe! Instead of thinking about particles being the DNA or
fundamental building blocks of our universe, might these not be oscillating
fundamental strings, where each harmonic of the string corresponds to a
particular known particle; with each of us being a very symphony of such

3) What is the nature of mass? And it is here that the hypothetical Higgs
particle steps into the limelight.

4) Do we live in a multidimensional universe of which we only see the four
dimensions of spacetime?

5)  Is ours but one of many worlds or ‘membranes’ floating through the

6) What is the basic nature of time?

There are many more questions still but I fear this contribution is in
imminent danger of morphing beyond manageable bounds...and the intention was
but to provoke some dialogue.  Please feel free to choose any topic that
you’d like us to start exploring...... further thoughts I will post anon...

best wishes
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