[-empyre-] Layers of ISEA2011: Corporate/Financial
michel at p2pfoundation.net
Mon Sep 19 22:23:41 EST 2011
Not very active in ISEA, but hoping to see some of you at tonight's ferry ..
For those interested in the full p2p story and if you are still 'here' and
available, there will be a 2 hour workshop on p2p for an english-speaking
see here for details,
It's in Turkish, but if you have questions, Ali in cc could give more
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 2:12 PM, norieneumark <norie5 at mac.com> wrote:
> hi All,
> long time no post. but seeing empyrians at drinks last night was exciting.
> I know what you mean about Sabanci Towers however there is another side to
> this which is that one gets an experience of 'real life' that as a tourist
> or usual conference participant in a big hotel of university one never has.
> going out to 4.levent on the metro with the cogs in the corporate machine,
> going through their normal everyday security is pretty intense, memorable,
> and interesting. experienicing another side to this amazing city and culture
> and pricks the curiosity about the wealth.
> and then to return via 3 forms of transport to the liveliness, megalopolis,
> 3 sided Istanbul is thrilling.
> n.neumark at latrobe.edu.au
> On 17/09/2011, at 7:29 AM, Renate Ferro wrote:
> > No don' t do that Simon, it is still pretty amazing to be in Istanbul and
> to see many friends who otherwise we communicate via list serve.
> > Sent from my iPad
> > On Sep 16, 2011, at 6:36 PM, Simon Biggs <simon at littlepig.org.uk> wrote:
> >> Great. I'm flying in tomorrow. I think I'll cancel.
> >> best
> >> Simon
> >> On 16 Sep 2011, at 16:04, Nicholas Knouf wrote:
> >>> Hello -empyre-,
> >>> I'd like to add another layer to the list: the corporate/financial one.
> >>> I want to write about the experience of entering into the main location
> >>> for the conference, Sabanci Towers. This requires being checked off of
> >>> a list and then traveling through a metal detector with your belongings
> >>> x-rayed. You find yourself in front of two gleaming towers of
> >>> numbers of floors that reflect
> >>> the blue sky. You realize that this is
> >>> not the university, but rather the headquarters for Sabanci Holding
> >>> (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Sabanci_Group), which
> >>> appears to be the largest industrial and financial conglomerate in
> >>> Turkey, while also the organization behind the founding of Sabanci
> >>> University. Once you make your way through men and women in perfectly
> >>> tailored business suits and executives being escorted into Mercedes to
> >>> driven to power lunches, you find yourself in front of another metal
> >>> detector and x-ray machine which may or may not be used (I didn't have
> >>> to go through it when I entered). Inside is bland corporate decor not
> >>> unlike anything else in the globalized world. Hacker or DIY space this
> >>> certainly is not, and the internet seems to block anything that doesn't
> >>> travel on ports 80 or 443 (meaning any local e-mail clients on
> >>> or smartphones won't work; Blackberries won't work; and seemingly only
> web traffic will go through). For your
> >>> 400EURO fee you are still required to pay for pastries.
> >>> I find the totality of this environment rather problematic for an
> ostensibly academic
> >>> and artistic conference and could write much more about it, but will
> >>> refrain for the moment. But I did want to describe this for those of
> >>> you who are not in Istanbul.
> >>> Best,
> >>> nick knouf
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> empyre forum
> >>> empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
> >>> http://www.subtle.net/empyre
> >> Simon Biggs
> >> simon at littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk @SimonBiggsUK skype:
> >> s.biggs at ed.ac.uk Edinburgh College of Art University of Edinburgh
> >> www.eca.ac.uk/circle www.elmcip.net www.movingtargets.co.uk
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> empyre forum
> >> empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
> >> http://www.subtle.net/empyre
> > _______________________________________________
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