[-empyre-] screens

Martin Rieser martin.rieser at gmail.com
Sun Jul 8 03:12:03 EST 2012

Hi Kriss

No- for me data means anything in digital form-not just statistics-and the
new data cloud can adapt to any real topology-the paradigm shift is
precisely that this form of representation can be perceived holistically or
holographically through such technologies as mobile augmented reality-not
as a visual technology or representations in the optical sense.


On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Kriss Ravetto <kravetto at ed.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi Martin,
> I am trying to play catch up, so I will be brief. I agree that the move to
> big data, to storage of data (in the cloud) no longer play into the same
> type of crisis of representation Simon (from New Zealand) referred to, but
> I am not sure how you are relating big data or clouds to real topologies,
> nor am I sure what you mean by "paradigm shift" (criticisms of Kuhn stick
> in my mind).  Big data's results are most likely statistical, we still come
> up with graphs...
> It is one thing where the data is, its location, isn't this visually
> mapped? or don't we create a visual / virtual map to access the data, plus
> once we analyze the content we are dealing with a visualization again?
> best,
> Kriss
> On Jul 7, 2012, at 1:50 AM, Martin Rieser wrote:
> > I think Johannes is moving towards my point about a completely new form
> of representation beyond the screen, in his discussion of motion capture
> and Kinect.
> >
> > While I do think the mobile etc is creating a new self-performing and
> spatialised 'cinema'- I think the new forms of data clouds - placed and
> formed to real topologies are a very new and different form of
> representation,  that goes beyond optical  'representation' and qualifies
> in some ways as a valid melded reality.
> >
> > Martin
> >
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