[-empyre-] Before the Law / Sensory Worlds

Michele Danjoux mdanjoux at dmu.ac.uk
Thu Nov 1 04:12:39 EST 2012

Whilst I have been a silent follower of the list postings this month
(most months in fact), I have been fascinated by the many things that
have been revealed and also very possibly not revealed.

Anyway, this last posting from Johannes took me immediately to the Orson
Welles film 'Citizen Kane' and to the snow globe and 'rosebud'. A man
lying on his death bed, on a large Florida estate, his memories and the
small incongruous material object (the snow globe) that connects him to
them. Sound and image come together powerfully and yet his small and
sensory virtual landscape of the snow world is silent. I have been
struck by how much impact the sharing of sound files via this month's
list has had (in relation to the hurricane- Alan) and of how we are
shifting away from the visual to the aural for sharing of experience. It
would be so good if we could also smell remotely how it is to be
somewhere else / someone else. Smell links us to memory I have found, so
that it can reveal memory that lives inside us that we had perhaps


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From: empyre-bounces at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
[mailto:empyre-bounces at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au] On Behalf Of Johannes
Sent: 31 October 2012 16:07
To: soft_skinned_space
Subject: Re: [-empyre-] Before the Law / control and cutting, stripped

dear all

Is memory also such a thing? Can it outlive the person to whom it is
said to belong?

Simon wrote this question, and i was going to say, yes, this is
something i always assumed, and Jonathan refered to this also in regard
to how trauma may be passed on from generation to generation.
I also think that one can "find" memory and discover how it lives in one
(or the other we live with or engage with), one senses the presence of
this lingering shadow world, or one finds it also in the notes left
behind by our fathers or grandfathers (cf. Stifter, Die Mappe des

Simon also responded to my reference to an "emergent, globalized psychic
pathology" (Malabou), and I was going to try to differ about the
assumption (from Damasio) that the effort ... to follow the
interactivity of the "different levels" results in a clear shape....

[Simon schreibt]
>The "notion of an "emergent, globalized psychic pathology"" is not a
drug to be taken outside of a carefully controlled and monitored and
emotionally supportive environment or else it is itself the project and
end of that carefully controlled and monitored and emotionally
supportive environment. >

But then the hurricane came to the north-eastern parts of the united
states, and i also, when reading, saw that Alan Sondheim and Jonathan
Marshall got caught in an inextricable, perhaps painfully unresolvable
online conversation or debate that seemed to infuriate (but i had a
sense it was also performed and perhaps not real? this akinetic
mirroring line by line? this warped pas de deux?).

Then i remembered the many things i learnt, for example, from the
postings by you all, and by Diane, 

>> Beyond the ways in which pain resists any separability of mind and
 in our currently brain-centrist time, it also resists any explanation
that focuses on the brain.>> 

especially on SNOWWORLD and pain distraction, shooting snowmen. 

>So my group is conducting a scientific study comparing SnowWorld with a
volcano world
(same terrain). >>

And then i wondered how it, this month's discussion, might at all relate
to the empathy now expressed to all of you in the north-eastern part of
the united states hurricaneworld before, during and after the hurricane,
and also the experiences that were mentioned initially, the hearing of
wind and storm, the recording and photographing it....

>>Everyone I know is documenting the storm and putting it up online. The

reality as such is troubling... At the moment the situation is more 
severe, small explosions, more fires, flooding everywhere....>>

is this not amazing.

having lived through numerous hurricanes in Texas and the Gulf bay area,
I can sympathize with your excitement, the thrill, the rush, the relief?
i also, when in Houston during these events, felt the impending disaster
as intoxicating, dangerous, fatal,  and yet (yet Katrina happened
nearby, very nearby, and it was awful) and yet, what is it. 
this "becoming equal to the wound" we have been talking about?

this presumption of live art?  or (I refer to Kristine's defense of
Burden) presumptiveness of a person somewhere under a ramp or in a white
cube doing a act of self-harming, what would it matter, and for whom?
what consequence?
And probably we can't speak of it in comparison with our fathers,
mothers, or grandparents not any longer recognizing themselves or their
own absence. And yet we do. 

I am leaving now, wanting to thank everybody for what you shared here,
and for having invited me.

Johannes Birringer

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