[-empyre-] into what midst? which collective? whose imaginary space?

Nathaniel Stern nathaniel.stern at gmail.com
Wed Apr 17 01:15:00 EST 2013

Hi all:

I have to admit I kind of like this free radical bit, with only a few provocations now and again...

Anyhow, while I'm unfamiliar with the Kostanic essay (perhaps you'd like to make a case here so we can all be on the same page?), I believe that while their techniques and practices are quite different, the modes of generosity that are inhabited by both Furtherfield and The Sense Lab are not that different (I am very active with both groups). Of course all on this list understand that neoliberalism (etc) poses a threat to the now widely recognized malleability of bodies and identities, being and becoming. And where groups like Furtherfield critique exploitation, an opposition if you will, The Sense Lab explores becoming otherwise, a proposition. Both are absolutely vital to [insert too many words to begin listing here].


On Apr 16, 2013, at 8:45 AM, Johannes Birringer <Johannes.Birringer at brunel.ac.uk> wrote:

> ----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------
> greetings to all
> just out of curiosity, if I may, in terms of the way you plan/ned to carry forward the discussion this month, was the core debate meant to be on the SAT project (into the midst), on SenseLab as a case-study for the kind of practices you have mentioned and described (and I'd like to come back at some point and ask some questions about your language), or did you envision having others on the wider empyre community respond to the SenseLab team with their readings of your event or with other propositions?
> --here , below,  a notice just received from Furtherfield (London), it might be of interest;
> and for those here who like to pursue and discuss the angle of the Croatian critique of neo-capitalist collectivism and instrumentalized choreograophic/"process" techniques without outcome (immaterial labor?),
> let me know and i send you the Kostanic essay & other links  if you like,
> with regards
> Johannes Birringer
> dap / interaktionslabor
> ::  Peer to Platform: Artist Collective vs. Social      Network  :::
> 1 May 2013
> http://www.ica.org.uk/37021/Talks/Peer-to-Platform-Artist-Collective-vs-Social-Network.html
> £10 / £8 Concessions / £7 ICA Members / £5 ICA Student Members
> This panel discussion will highlight the overlaps between the way in
> which a radical artist collective functions and how individuals operate
> together within the most contemporary of frameworks, the social network.
> If the radical artist collective is posited as a network for shared
> political ideals and collaborative production, could it be proposed that
> an emerging generation of digitally-native artists is more comfortable
> establishing such structures online? Perhaps the accessibility of
> virtual space, the promise of relative anonymity and the corporate
> overtones of online platforms provide the perfect forum to continue the
> legacy of groups such as Bernadette Corporation.
> Reflecting on the notion of the network and questions of authorship,
> ownership, self-promotion, and sincerity, the conversation will explore
> the ways in which – arguably – the peer-to-peer bond of the artist
> collective has been replaced by the virtual connections of Facebook and
> Twitter.
> Chaired by Ben Vickers, the panel will comprise Lizvlx from
> UBERMORGEN.COM, Metahaven and Ruth Catlow from Furtherfield.
> ++++
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