[-empyre-] from the south
agora158 at gmail.com
Wed May 29 11:02:54 EST 2013
Dear Johannes, so sad you come in the discussion so late, I missed you the
whole month. You have the ability to link together theory and practice in a
very intuitive way.
I think we have different arenas and all of them are linked and connected,
the academy, the art scene, the activist stages, the counterculture with
all what it means.
I think the challenge seems to be how to share skills and add skills to
make collective works keeping the individual freedom and the capacity to
create art in all the shapes: writing, theater, visual art, dance, etc.
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Johannes Birringer <
Johannes.Birringer at brunel.ac.uk> wrote:
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> dear all
> i think we can teach virtuosity, and you can teach irony, usefully; I do
> like the
> "modos de hacer colectivo" , and many insights learnt here, very usefully
> indeed from
> Carol-Ann's association concert-urbain and her politics of working with
> people in
> the neighborhoods -
> Ana, is this what you also refer to as a collaborative environment
> (in the activist sense you imply or the political geographies you
> mentioned, not the interactive-art sense), neighborhoods/conflict zones?
> and then these would be outside academia, and academia's or philosophy's
> language games? or how are they represented
> here or there, in various interrelated arenas, to what extent is education
> now again part of theological or corporate business management?
> how would an idea of non-collective (since the collective is utopian - and
> modos de hacer colectivo are difficult to sustain?) activism relate back to
> Cecilia's "private politics" (& public secrets)
> and to what extent are you positing an older political activism vs a newer
> activism, and to what purpose? yet Ricardo's narration on
> EXCEDENTES/EXCESS & "Carrito Mermas" or Paul Vanouse's pedaling
> intrefventions and then the discussion about language difficulties were
> very effective too, thanks to all of you for these posts.
> Cecilia Parsberg writes:
> I regard activism as an open definition and it's defined in the project by
> the project itself; by what is made or achieved in regard to the purpose,
> the initiative and response, process, situation/site/relations.
> Admirably, like Brooke Singer in her postmedium post, Cecila speaks of
> making images with others rather than of others or the self (though that,
> too?), and Simon in his usual and wonderful sarcastic sense picked up on
> this, when he asks us here why we are not collaborating. Why everyone is so
> Please expand on "What has happened is an evaporation of critical
> Johannes Birringer
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