[-empyre-] empyre Digest, Vol 111, Issue 8

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Sat Mar 1 21:30:15 EST 2014

i also think this is an interesting point. Designers also here in Austria
(Linz, Wien) treat epubs as experimental 3 day workshops, or 'Sprints'.
Well, there just isn't much to do for them here, without ABANDONING
everything they have learned before (and after). And apart from that yes,
publishers themselves do the 'India thing' very often instead hiring people
capable of it.

But how does great epub design look like? I didn't see much of it yet
except to actually start 'think icon'. Could you bring up some examples


On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Florian Cramer <flrncrmr at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Hello,
>> I'm especially thinking of this somewhat shocking claim from Florian that
>> they are ten graphic designers in the entire Netherlands who know to design
>> an EPUB file (how do you even get a rough estimate like that?)!
> This is estimate is based on our ongoing research on this issue since 2009
> when we organized a first conference on electronic book publishing at
> Willem de Kooning Academy ("print/pixel"). It has simply been an issue of
> market demand and supply, complete lack of respective training in graphic
> and media design programs (with one exception of a trimester project at
> Piet Zwart Institute in 2010) and a frequent rejection of epub by designers
> because of its design limitations.
> The epubs on the market today have, in most cases, not been designed by
> graphic or media designers, but either by documenting engineering companies
> who specialize in semi-automated document format conversion (i.e. turning
> publisher's Word or InDesign files into generic plain text ePubs) or - and
> here comes the interesting economic bit - by outsourced service providers
> in India.
> Florian
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