[-empyre-] Notes and a comment -
sonjalebos at gmail.com
Wed Nov 26 07:54:16 EST 2014
'Yes, the police can be horrific in the U.S. but there are no groups here
committing genocide, wiping out towns and beheading everyone.'
US army has been in war like no other army in the world since Indochina.
2014-11-25 21:05 GMT+01:00 Alan Sondheim <sondheim at panix.com>:
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> Hi Ana,
> I'm just repeating myself; to me these are all very different with
> different causes; the underlying terror, anguish, genocides may be similar,
> but I can't lump the countries together, as you do. This
> is a real difference between us; you say
> My point is why sort out Isis as villain/culprit/ when the US and Kina and
> Iran and Israel and so many other countries do exactly what Isis does?
> Public executions? Saudi Arabia and Iran. Collective punishment? Israel.
> Death row for 39 years being innocent? The US. Military violence exerted by
> the police? The whole world. Children in jail without trials. Israel. My
> point is Isis is only one of these groups using rebellions and violence as
> a tool for "liberation". The M?s Mas movement killed white settlers in
> atrocious ways to decolonize Kongo and Tanzania.
> - and for me "sorting out" is absolutely necessary, and "The whole world"
> does not behave the same. Yes, the police can be horrific in the U.S. but
> there are no groups here committing genocide, wiping out towns and
> beheading everyone. If it were all the same, everywhere, there would be no
> reason for different testimonials, no reason for analysis, no reason for
> local action, no reason for looking at local histories or cultural
> difference. We just see the world differently and the reason I didn't want
> to discuss this further, I don't think we have common ground on this issue
> - at least for me, I'm just repeating myself.
> - Alan
> empyre forum
> empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
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