[-empyre-] detention vs movement violence (kinopolitics and Femicide)

Murat Nemet-Nejat muratnn at gmail.com
Fri Feb 12 02:41:10 AEDT 2016


Does kinopolitics concern itself only with human flows, what about the flow
of jobs across state lines where the workers stay static? Both are
political/economic migrations where the concept of nation states is
weakened. But do, or don't, these different migrations have different
ethical consequences?


On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Ricardo Dominguez <rrdominguez at ucsd.edu>

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> Hola Tod at s,
> The question of blocking human flows and the expanding human flows, of
> escape routes and fencing in becomes  (a question of kinopolitics).
> Kinopolitics is the theory and analysis of social motion: the politics of
> movement. Instead of understanding societies as
> static systems, we look at regimes of movement both perceptible and
> imperceptible. Social motions that can be framed as flows, junctions,
> and circulations-floods, flux, and vector. Immigrants and refugees are
> figures of movement, nomadic, that no-longer bound to rights and
> representation of static states-the figure who walks and unmakes the
> aesthetics and romance of the nation or the union. As I like to say to my
> students: "Do we fear the walking dead, because they are dead or because
> they are walking?" We fear those that move differently".
> This creates the constant need to stop, block, detain, or eliminate
> sectors of these walking communities.
> One of the outcomes is that containment zones like Juarez, Mexico, or
> spaces along political Equator, or Free Trade Zones, and Pipeline cultures
> is the segmentation of people as disposable or available for disposable.
> And more often than not women are the first to be the targets:
> http://www.texasobserver.org/femicide-in-juarez-is-not-a-myth/ and also
> worth reading is the book the *Femicide Machine*:
> https://www.thing.net/~rdom/ucsd/Borders/TheFemicideMachine.pdf
> Two text that have found helpful kinopolitics are:
> *Escape Routes: Control and Subversion in the 21st Century:
> https://www.thing.net/~rdom/ucsd/Borders/Escape.pdf
> <https://www.thing.net/~rdom/ucsd/Borders/Escape.pdf>*
> and
> *The Figure of the Migrant
> https://www.thing.net/~rdom/ucsd/Borders/TheMigrant.pdf
> <https://www.thing.net/~rdom/ucsd/Borders/TheMigrant.pdf> *Abrazos,
> Ricardo
> On 2/10/16 7:27 PM, Irina Contreras wrote:
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> Johannes,
> I appreciate the request to think about sexual violence as it pertains to
> the encampments. For myself, I think of sexual and gender based violences
> as direct results of colonial regime. Following people like Nicole
> Guidotti, I think of the way she speaks of utterances as a way to discuss
> how scholars "gloss over" certain facts pertaining to
> sexualized/gendered/racialized/classed information when producing text.
> That's obviously done within so many kinds of work, research, activism and
> scholarly texts.
> At the same time, I am intrigued ( I think that's the word I will use for
> the moment) at how we are literally surfing all over the globe at the
> moment in the conversation. This seems much to do with the topic at hand,
> right? Talking about borders and immigration etc is certainly not a tight
> container by all means. Not that we want it to be....
> Lastly, I just wanted to add in regards to the number of companies
> mentioned, it seems important to mention the various pipelines being
> constructed. I think Genie and Dow Jones both have a role in that. Which to
> further play connect the dots also made me think of Christina's mention of
> the Cherokee peoples and while a different group but a number of the
> pipelines throughout Canada mirroring the sexual assaults and femicide
> throughout these lands. So I guess again in thinking about the limits or
> lack of limits to thinking about borders i.e. when people are forcibly
> created into being borderless is where I am left...
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Babak Fakhamzadeh <
> babak.fakhamzadeh at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> As far as I'm aware, there are no private drivers/actors in the Syria
>> conflict. That is, the Syrian, US, Saudi Arabian, Turkish, Iranian and
>> several Gulf states are the only ones paying to keep the conflict
>> going. So, if the Haliburtons, or hardware providers, would be taxed
>> in this context, all that would happen would, essentially, be each
>> state taxing themselves.
>> Sure, Halliburton and its successors have made huge profits,
>> particularly in Iraq, but at a risk. Not so much for corporate
>> Halliburton, but for the individual employees. There is no way but to
>> have big risks come with big rewards, meaning that it's only
>> economically expected for the Haliburtons of this world to make lots
>> of money.
>> I'm not defending either conflicts in Iraq or Syria from any angle.
>> I'm only pointing out that 'solving' the problem is not that
>> straightforward. Probably the main problem is not the Haliburtons or
>> pick your favourite oil companies of this world, who simply,
>> primarily, react to opportunity (see Cockburn's The Rise of the
>> Islamic State,
>> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25407471-the-rise-of-islamic-state),
>> it's the political desire for influence and control.
>> In the 'west', 'the people' might be able to have some meaningful
>> influence on steering the course of their nations, in many other
>> countries, this is not the case, leaving warmongering autocrats to do
>> pretty much whatever they want, and for-profits to step in to the
>> voids they create.
>> Hence, the conflict in Syria and its consequences.
>> But, how did the Gulf countries manage to not take in any Syrian
>> refugees and get away with it?
>> --
>> Babak Fakhamzadeh | babak.fakhamzadeh at gmail.com |
>> http://BabakFakhamzadeh.com
>> Ask me for my PGP public key to send me encrypted email.
>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Ana Valdés < <agora158 at gmail.com>
>> agora158 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> >
>> > Johannes it was not only me, the great majority of the Latinamerican
>> refugees coming to Europe during the 70:s are today relatively integrated
>> in Europe and many of them come back to South America and are today's
>> ministers in different socialdemocrats governments.
>> > I speak mostly of Chile and Uruguay.
>> > My point is the clue to absorb refugees was to give them tools to be
>> selfsufficient to teach them skills necessary to manage the challenges of a
>> new life, languages, therapy for them surviving jail and torture, family
>> reunification for them separated from their relatives needing support, a
>> profession or a work.
>> > The problem is the numbers today all the resources of wealthy welfare
>> countries as Germany Norway Sweden Danmark Finland and France are strained
>> to give huge amounts of refugees their bare needs it means shelter medical
>> support and food it's not enough to grant the refugees a worthy life it's
>> only a patch for their most immediate needs.
>> > But countries as Greece or Hungary or Serbia are not able to deal with
>> the huge waves of refugees pouring every day from warzones.
>> > As I wrote in an ocassion here the only ones having huge profits from
>> the wars are the manufacturers of weapons and the owners of parallel armies
>> as Blackwater Haliburton Dupont and many others. A way to deal with the
>> mounting cost of fleeing refugees should be apply big taxes to all
>> companies dealing with weapons.
>> > Let them pay the consequences of their unethical warmongery.
>> > Ana
>> >
>> > Den 10 feb 2016 18:19 skrev "Johannes Birringer" <
>> Johannes.Birringer at brunel.ac.uk>:
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >> what is "kinopolitics"?
>> >>
>> >> just wondering as the term (referring to kino/cinema)? was not clear
>> to me when I think Ricardo
>> >> first brought it up...
>> >> unless there is a link here to what, I think, P.Sloterdijk once wrote
>> as a critique
>> >> "political kinetics”, kinetic movement of 20th century politics of
>> speed and displacement,
>> >> war machines, etc
>> >> -  i think in 1989 he even spoke of a kinetic inferno, but I doubt
>> that at the time he
>> >> could anticipate the current refugee migrations and displacements.
>> >>
>> >> thanks for your reply Isabelle, I need more time to reflect, as I think
>> >> my question was really how the "camp" has been used as a metaphor or
>> >> as a symbolic system by philosophers and that is not what we were
>> >> talking about, and my confusion came from a sense of the romantic
>> resistance
>> >> I felt you proposed vis à vis governmental / central policy of
>> containment (which is not in fact
>> >> quite true for Germany,  I surmise, where regional administrations and
>> help organizations
>> >> in a distributed federal landscape need to take often their own
>> initiatives for help?); Calais
>> >> and Grande-Synthe at Dunkerque may be dfferent in that respect, but i
>> visited facilties in the
>> >> Saarland near a town where I grew up and managing help was done
>> through a mix of
>> >> local institutions and mini-NGOs, and provisions for sleep, care, food
>> were not
>> >> left to "Jungle" self administration and done cooperatively, I wonder
>> actually what
>> >> forms of governance or camp community formation happen under the
>> circumstances,
>> >> and how different the anticipations or hopes may be (and Ana, your
>> case back then surely
>> >> sounds as if you had been very fortunate).
>> >>
>> >> I wonder whether there would be room here to also look at some of the
>> incidents of
>> >> sexual violence, puportedly committed by immigrant asylum seekers
>> staying in Germany
>> >> at the time of the criminal offenses (Cologne e.g.), and how such
>> violence has been used
>> >> now against migrants by the instrumentalizing political wings and
>> press.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> regards
>> >> Johannes Birringer
>> >> dap-lab
>> >>
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