[-empyre-] Recent work on 'semiotic splatter' / introduction

Murat Nemet-Nejat muratnn at gmail.com
Thu Nov 10 06:05:52 AEDT 2016


We are wrong to consider Trump's message incoherent (except fpr us who were
deaf to its siren song):

1. Hatred of non-whites and financial self interest is at the center of
Trump's vision: a) when the Central Park five were cleared of murder due to
dna evidence, he put a full page ad in the New York Times attacking their
release and asking for their continuing incarceration. b) birtherism.

2) Knowing that the blue color whites are the foundation of his coalition.

3) He supported (at least in name) a guarantee of social security on which
the working class vitally depend.

3) He knew that he needed the evangelicals to create a national coalition
though he himself obviously has nothing to do with religion.

4) He proposed an end to the estate tax so he can pass his money to his
children and tax cuts that will benefit rich people like him, not the
working class (that's where the snake oil salesman comparison comes in).

Then he went for it.

In retrospect, his anti-Latino comments turned out to be a head fake. It
turned off the Latinos for sure. But it cemented the devotion of his
supporters for him against every sort of attack.


On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Murat Nemet-Nejat <muratnn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ana, Alan,
> Not in terms of wisdom perhaps, but in terms of economic condition the
> choice the blue collar worker made was justified. We should not condescend.
> If I am stuck in a place for years and years, I also would yearn for a time
> when factories were churning out cars, etc. Both in Germany and Italy,
> fascism rose out of a condition of chronic high unemployment and an economy
> of low paying and temporary jobs (some of it just distributing political
> hate filled leaflets) around it.People like Trump, Mussolini, Hitler
> channel the energy of that hatred against an enemy that can be demonized.
> About the condition of proloteriat prior to Fascism, the best work is
> Fassbinder's Alexanderplatz (preferably the long, ten (?) episode T.V.
> version.
> Murat
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Ana Valdés <agora158 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Alan i think the parts of Hitler and Mussolinis discourses about the
>> importance of workers about the national pride and the longing for a
>> imperial past are relevant in Trump’s case as well.
>> I read some minutes ago 7 av each 10 of Trump’s voters wanted go back to
>> the 50's.
>> It means a time where the US was victorious white and wealthy where they
>> imposed the world "the American way of life" as model.
>> As Roland Barthes says it's a question of language :)
>> Ana
>> Den 9 nov 2016 14:34 skrev "Alan Sondheim" <sondheim at panix.com>:
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>>> There is a huge difference; Hitler etc. ran on a platform which was
>>> (horribly) coherent; Trump splatters, not only in the attacks, but also in
>>> terms of coherency. This is a very different thing; it's not to say he
>>> isn't a thug - he is - but one who wants power above all, and is less
>>> concerned about its deployment. -
>>> Alan
>>> On Wed, 9 Nov 2016, Ana Vald?s wrote:
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