[-empyre-] Forwarded message from Madeleine Casad, Muntadas and forward

Craig Saper csaper at umbc.edu
Fri Sep 23 01:36:01 AEST 2016

Fantastic (and sublimely sending shivers) — to put these next to each other — from the well-meaning idealism to the "autocannibalistic … surreal click-based economic model” — and this also overlaps with the idea of n(y)et-forms of management and administration. Precursors might include Home’s artists strikes, but without the "algorithmic autonomy” the projects lack the “autocannibalistic” … and that is where these works become interesting IMHO … as Deleuzian models of governmental bureaucracies (beyond the functional/dysfunctional binary). [given the context of this list, I also liked the student debt strike — although not attuned-surreal).

On Sep 22, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Timothy Conway Murray <tcm1 at cornell.edu> wrote:

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Muntadas 1979: this is great.  Thanks, Simon.

Our exchange so far has me thinking of some of the idealistic, direct
interventions of projects brought up last week, efforts that are engaged
with rewriting the terms of corporate power.

I¹m reminded especially here of two titles from the list rybn shared a
while back:  GWEI (Ubermorgen, 2005-8; http://www.gwei.org/index.php ), a
project I¹ve admired and mulled over for years; and the Robin Hood Asset
Management Cooperative (Akseli Virtanen & collective, 2013;
http://robinhoodcoop.org/ ).  The role of algorithmic autonomy and
automated actions in both of these endeavors is, of course, significant.
To the extent that they express a desire to change the world, these
projects promote a kind of idealism ­ but I get hung up on the ways they
construe management and agency.  Posthumanism comes in lots of flavors.

Tamiko Thiel¹s message about Christin Lahr¹s MACHT GESCHENKE, DAS CAPITAL
) comes to mind here as well ­ a project fundamentally about transcoding
political memory and exploiting tiny gaps in automated bureaucratic
procedures of financial institutions.

I also think of online projects that are more traditionally activist (ie
efforts that play up the idea of collective political and economic agency)
and focus on debt strikes and crowd-funding of debt relief.
The Debt Collective https://debtcollective.org  (Strike Debt 2014) and
Rolling Jubilee (Strike Debt, 2012) https://rollingjubilee.org/ are great
examples of this.  Thom Feeney¹s attempted Greek bailout fund on Indiegogo
pops up for me, also (
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/greek-bailout-fund ), though it may
strain our working definitions of net.art.

Does anyone have thoughts about these works, or others deal with idealism,
change, and the (post)human  .Š or perhaps we should return to Simon¹s
initial question of ³whether we shouldn¹t bother²?!


Timothy Murray
Professor of Comparative Literature and English
Taylor Family Director, Society for the Humanities
Curator, Rose Goldsen Archive of New Media Art
A D White House
Cornell University,
Ithaca, New York 14853


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