[-empyre-] teaching robot poetry

Davin Heckman davinheckman at gmail.com
Fri May 5 03:31:03 AEST 2017

Following on Alan's comments comments on canonicity, and the value of what
exists beyond...  I suspect that the great patterning of our century is the
orchestration of affect (things like Facebook's husbandry of wild affective
states, their domestication, and conversion into commodities).  And here
our passions become Roundup Ready Terminator seeds, dead end creatures in
tidy little rows, waiting for a machine to spray the weeds.

What can exist outside of this? Against this? In spite of this? Beyond
this? What little wildflowers may bloom? I think the understood works are a
place where we can see and know that in our days of emergency, not all
emergence is equivalent, and that there are instances where we can leave
and detect traces, however strong or subtle they may be. But there are
territories beyond this (I was recently reading Zepka's apotrolomena), and
the signals they send are yet more alien....  And that gives me hope.

In reviewing the about page from the ELC 3 (
http://collection.eliterature.org/3/about.html), I am reminded that there
are some interesting lines of flight implied....  a collection that dwells
a bit more on its ephemerality than the two previous, but like the others
contains many very real wildflowers...


On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 11:47 AM, VANDERBORG, SUSAN VANDERBORG <
SJVANDER at mailbox.sc.edu> wrote:

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> Davin, thanks--these are terrific resources for the Montfort/Strickland
> pieces! Murat, might it be possible to post a link to your poem or
> information for the full volume?
> These posts and Alan's detailed piece underscore great questions of
> publication and scholarly space for discussions of robot poetry--the need
> to remind students that the most current and thoughtful discussions are
> taking place in newsgroups, lists, chats, open publication sites.
> It's a wonderful boon that some of the poetry itself is available in
> collections like the Electronic Literature Collection or on the artists'
> site--I am so grateful to be able to direct cyborg lit students to Emily
> Short's Galatea, for instance, or Andrew Plotkin's Shade, and Alan, I
> believe you have posted large segments of the Internet Text online. Your
> point, too, that many of the programming languages or environments are
> shared reinforces the concept of publication in Borges-style, open-source
> directions. And when some of the texts are collected in print volumes, we
> can again discuss the effect of different visual/material formats on the
> interpretation of the poem.
> How have other participants and readers approached questions of
> e-publication and forums? What opportunities or difficulties does it pose
> for authors? How do we both encourage online postings and support the
> amazing work of presses like Finishing Line, Barrytown, Coffee House Press,
> Coach House Books, and many others?
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> artdesign.unsw.edu.au] on behalf of Murat Nemet-Nejat [muratnn at gmail.com]
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> Cc: mhree at uoregon.edu
> Subject: Re: [-empyre-] What is robot poetics? How/why should we teach it?
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