[-empyre-] A poem is a small (or large) machine

Davin Heckman davinheckman at gmail.com
Sat May 6 11:08:22 AEST 2017


I like the idea that one would write, whether it be for philosophy, art,
science, or love, without commitment to a pre-ordained solution.  In this
sense, sentimentality is an obstacle to a kind of art.

On the other hand, I also think, like Murat, that there might contemporary
demands placed on poetics beyond modernism....  and that works might be
forged from deliberation, not as perfected gestures, but as relational
events between rigorously engaged subjects.  Which requires the suspension
of sentimentality, but in a different way.

davin


On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Murat Nemet-Nejat <muratnn at gmail.com> wrote:

> ----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------
> ""There's nothing sentimental about a machine, and: A poem is a small
> (or large) machine made out of words. When I say there's nothing
> sentimental about a poem, I mean that there can be no part that is
> redundant. Prose may carry a load of ill-defined matter like a ship.
> But poetry is a machine which drives it, pruned to a perfect economy."
>
> Margaret, if we change the word "redundant" to "non-functional," one might
> as well be describing modern architecture of Bauhaus, etc. I wonder if our
> era has not gone beyond that stage and requires a different aesthetic, one
> more in tune with the realities of our times.
>
> Ciao,
> Murat
>
> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Margaret J Rhee <mrhee at uoregon.edu> wrote:
>
>> ----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------
>> "There's nothing sentimental about a machine, and: A poem is a small
>> (or large) machine made out of words. When I say there's nothing
>> sentimental about a poem, I mean that there can be no part that is
>> redundant. Prose may carry a load of ill-defined matter like a ship.
>> But poetry is a machine which drives it, pruned to a perfect economy.
>> As in all machines, its movement is intrinsic, undulant, a physical
>> more than a literary character."
>>
>> I'd like to start a thread about this quote by WCW, that Mike raised here.
>> A friend the Mexican poet Hugo Martinez, remarked we should replace
>> machine
>> with machete.
>>
>> "There must be something hardwired into its machinery--a heartbeat, a
>> pulse--that keeps it breathing." -- Ed Hirsch
>>
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