[-empyre-] Braiding threads, climate disaster, animal/artist interaction, policy

margaretha haughwout margaretha.anne.haughwout at gmail.com
Sun Oct 15 05:06:37 AEDT 2017

Hi Ben, Meredith, and all,

I'm also thinking of Moore's call for a "revolutionary ecology of work,"
that must engage "paid human labor, unpaid human labor, and the unpaid
labor of nature as a whole." I first him articulate these ideas at his
conference called "Women, Natures, Colonies" this past summer. Hopefully he
will continue to articulate these ideas in week 4.

So a critical question that should be asked alongside the others in this
thread is whether these feedback mechanisms operate in service to
capitalism or not, as this belies what species and what humans get to live
and flourish...

A lot also could be said about the history of the idea of ecologies as
ecosystems, and whether this is a worthwhile, or accurate way of
understanding dynamics between species... Lot's of interesting overlaps
between early cybernetics, ideas of ecosystems, and design processes like


On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 8:49 PM, Meredith Drum <meredithdrum at gmail.com>

> ----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------
> Hello All,
> Thank you, Ben, for inviting us to consider how our projects might address
> the questions Brian (and you) raised.
> I usually work at small scale, yet with the intent to shift policy on
> small scale, for certain. My collaborative Oyster City Project was
> specifically addressing policy shift re NYC pollution management and
> aquatic ecology remediation / bio-remediation. Yet, importantly, this
> project does not involve collaborating with animals. That is not something
> I do.
> I am excited to hear others address this and will continue to respond.
> Best,
> Meredith
> > On Oct 13, 2017, at 3:40 PM, Benjamin Schultz-Figueroa <
> baschult at ucsc.edu> wrote:
> >
> > ----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I wonder if it's possible to bring together some of the different
> threads of this conversation? On the one hand, we have the pressing
> problems of incoming climate disaster, which Brian observes "will now force
> new experiments in land management." The question of how this management
> manifests, and what role nonhuman animals will play in this realization, is
> paramount. As Brian concludes: "Can we imagine a world in which ever-larger
> numbers of people change their own behavior according to the cues they
> receive from animals?"
> >
> > On the other hand, we have a really amazing collection of encounters
> between human artists and animal subjects. Collections of humans, crows,
> salmon, oysters, among others, have worked together to produce a variety of
> mediated conversations about ethics, land-use, and point-of-view (human or
> otherwise).
> >
> > Drawing from the basic theme of science fiction that Margaretha began
> this week with, I'd love to hear this week's artists speculate about how
> they might answer Brian's question. What would a world look like in which
> the media works that you (co-)produce with animals were taken as informing
> policies of land management,  social organization, agricultural practices,
> etc.? Do your films/videos/installations imply a larger, scaled up,
> possible method for tackling the kinds of design questions that Brian
> raised?
> >
> > All the best,
> > -Ben
> >
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