[-empyre-] Situated body, Situated practices

warkk WarkK at newschool.edu
Thu Sep 12 01:56:00 AEST 2019

Thanks for those references. I don’t know that documentary. In the
overdeveloped world and perhaps elsewhere, all bodies, cis and trans, are
experiments held together by both technical experiments and aesthetic
experiments. Trans ppl don’t necessarily want to be seen as exceptional in
that regard. Personally we m in the Freak Pride camp, but a lot of
brothers, sisters and others just think of themselves as ordinary. The
right to be ordinary is also an important one. M

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 1:38 AM isabelle arvers <iarvers at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Hello everyone,
> I so much agree with what has just been said;)
> On the subject one of the most beautiful things I have heard so far is in
> Bixa Travesty documentary in which Mc Linn Da Quebrada says that our body
> is our own territory of experimentation;)
> also loved the idea of the documentary Sea Horse about the man who had a
> baby,
> Cheers
> Isabelle
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> Le mer. 11 sept. 2019 à 13:13, Jaimes Mayhew <jaimes.mayhew at gmail.com> a
> écrit :
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>> Hi everyone,
>> I have been in this listserve since 2008 and I can’t recall ever posting,
>> but I was inspired to share that seeing this conversation made my heart
>> swell. I am also transgender, and transitioned early in my career.
>> I’m struck that just 15-20 years ago, seeing this kind of conversation
>> about trans* people on a list for art people seemed impossible. I’ve found
>> people who are trans* in every city I’ve lived in via social media as a way
>> to make friends and find allies. First Friendster, then MySpace and now
>> Facebook.
>> McKenzie, I am a fan of your work, and was so excited to see you present
>> at CAA in NYC a couple of years ago. I remember seeing you and wondering if
>> you might be family.
>> What else can I say? I’m grateful for this moment.
>> Sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos or brevity.
>> On Sep 10, 2019, at 6:05 AM, warkk <WarkK at newschool.edu> wrote:
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>> When i came out (on Facebook, natch), Sandy sent me a message which said:
>> "Now you know why, when i met you, i made you nervous."
>> True story. I had so much internalized transphobia because i knew i was
>> clinging on to masculinity by a thread.
>> "The internet" has a lot to answer for. It turns out media designed for
>> extracting surplus information out of us is a great breeding ground for
>> Nazis.
>> Then again, it is a space where trans ppl can find each other. I'm
>> transitioning with the help of big sisters i know IRL -- but met on
>> twitter.
>> Then again again, its a space for ppl who hate us. Its exhausting playing
>> whack-a-mole with ppl who think you are not human.
>> The actual German-style Nazis started with queer and trans ppl too. The
>> Nazi-book burning pictures you see most often are of the Hirschfeld library.
>> Who was Hirschfield? Who was Harry Benjamin? What was the medicalized
>> model of the transsexual? Well for that you'd need to read this:
>> http://www.sterneck.net/gender/stone-posttranssexuel/index.php
>> -- in which Sandy became big sister to us all.
>> Ironically enough, for complicated reasons, i'm among sisters who all
>> call ourselves transsexuals again.
>> But then one of themes is change, right?
>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 2:17 AM Allucquere Rosanne Stone <
>> allucquere.stone at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Hi folks, Sandy here.  McKenzie and I met in the mythic time of the
>>> latter part of the XXth Century, when she (then he) met a busful of
>>> middle-aged theoreticians debarking at a conference venue.  McKenzie
>>> glanced at me and then stared with an expression I interpreted as loathing,
>>> and which later I realized was something more akin to terror.  I thought
>>> that they might be an F2M afraid of being outed, so out of courtesy I gave
>>> them a wide berth.  In retrospect I wish I hadn’t.  Roads not taken, ships
>>> that pass in the night…
>>> At any rate, we’re here now, and it’s a great pleasure.
>>> Yeah, I’ve seen a lot of young transpeople in what at some point in the
>>> past was a general catchphrase for personal turbulence: going through
>>> changes.  Right. Ch-ch-ch-changes.  Who knew.
>>> Well.  The present moment is so chockfull of changes.  A close relative,
>>> an intelligent, perceptive, empathetic and caring person, is a Trumpist.  J
>>> Epstein, an intelligent, perceptive philanthropist, was a raging
>>> pedophile.  Valerie Plame has launched a campaign video that either reduces
>>> or elevates politics to the level of Hollywood spectacle — literally… all
>>> it lacks is Jason Statham and Vin Diesel getting out of the car behind
>>> her.  A woman has given birth to a cow’s head.  We’re all busy slouching
>>> toward our particular Bethlehem.  What’s not to like?
>>> I’ll say something about change that’s more related to this thread
>>> later.  This is just a little introductory blurt until I have more time.
>>> Sandy
>>> Allucquere Rosanne Stone
>>> Drive-by Theoretician
>>> Faust: How comes it then that thou art out of hell?
>>> Meph: Why this is hell, nor am I out of it.
>>> Sent from my iPhone. Please enjoy all autocorrects and typos.
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