[-empyre-] Introducing Angeliki Diakrousi and Cristina Cochior

Angeliki Diakrousi diakaggel at gmail.com
Fri Dec 11 03:11:53 AEDT 2020


Thanks for your questions Dan! Nice to see your interpretation of TRZ. I
respond from my side (inviting Cristina to continue the thread:)):

On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 at 05:54, Daniel Lichtman <danielp73 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Cristina and Angeliki,
> Thank you so much again for sharing Temporary Riparian Zone with the
> empyre community! Here is the link to the TRZ project page:
> http://accumulations.online/trz.html
> I've just been listening to some of the recordings in the bottom half of
> the Temporary Riparian Zone interface, which is embedded on the
> Accumulations page. I find it thrilling (to be blunt!) to trace the
> connections between these recordings, streamed among the group of
> geographically remote workshop participants. The meandering connections
> between these audio fragments link, however abstractly, the diversity of
> cultural, political and environmental contexts in which each participant
> made their contribution, not to mention each participants'
> creative interests and mood at the particular moment of recording.

*Thanks for highlighting the temporal, geographical, political and cultural
dimensions. Even though the workshop lasted for only 3 hours it was enough
time to be lost in meandering and listening/reading each other, grasping
fragments of our contexts and our selves. For us it was an experiment and I
didn't realize, until we did it, how these contexts intervened into the
process (in matter of internet connection, time zones, familiarity with
online streaming, sounds from our environments, different browsers
experience etc). *

> This reminds me of the way several parts of the View Recent Changes
> project (http://accumulations.online/recentchanges.html), presented
> earlier this month, associated groups of images, text fragments, graphics
> and categories of information with one another -- sometimes by large
> numbers of participants contributing fragments of narrative or poetry,
> sometimes by machine intelligence and sometimes by other, distributed
> means. It also reminds me of Agustina Woodgate, Stephanie Sherman and
> Hernan Woodgate's project RadioEE (https://radioee.net), which was also
> presented at Hackers and Designers 2020. Radio EE is a nomadic radio
> station that presents 24 hour long audio broadcasts from locations around
> the world. For each project, networks of local cultural producers
> contribute content using a variety of analog and digital streaming
> technologies, which is then broadcast to an international listening
> community.

*I am very interested in the these dimensions that you've mentioned and
also RadioEE is dealing with. I have been following their amazing work and
indeed TRZ has some similarities that I would love to explore further. I
have participated in one of the RadioEE 24h streams called Wireless
(https://radioee.net/event/wireless/ <https://radioee.net/event/wireless/>)
as part of Varia together with Fanfare, and jajajanenene (collectives in
Rotterdam and Amsterdam) and it was so exciting to experience this
simultaneity, at the same time delay and non-concurrency, of analogous and
digital media, multiple ports, multiple cities and time zones. In both
cases streaming becomes a manifestation of the geographical, cultural and
political structures depending on: where does broadcasting happen, where is
the server located, who is connected with whom, where are the clients
(computers connected with the server), do broadcasters/listeners use VPN,
who has control, what is the legal situation on streaming and internet for
each country, what is the situation and mood of the participant/guest and
other factors. *

*View Recent Changes embraces the fragmentation of human, animal, machinic,
digital reality very nicely. Also it shows poetically that relations
between these realities can be incomplete. I find interesting the temporal
difference between this project and TRZ. The first has this accumulation of
material in a wiki platform which can be an archival space and different
editors can add/edit gradually, in a long period of time, through writing.
And the latter was made to be live and short in time. But somehow because
of writing in the pad and documenting the recordings from workshops in the
interface it shares similar ways of accumulating fragments of thoughts and
relations.  *

> Each of these projects create an interface for connecting and associating
> disparate elements together into an (at least sort of) cohesive narrative,
> though not one authored by any individual.
> Can you guys tell us a little bit about the process of participants
> streaming to one another? How did discussion on Etherpad lead to this group
> of recordings? And, most interesting to me, how were the connections traced
> between recordings, so nicely presented in graphic form on the interface?

*We had a moment of introducing ourselves in couples by listening to each
other when the writing in the Etherpad and the set up of butt (stream
client) was over. Each of us was listening to the stream of another person
and introducing ourselves in turns. It was the first time that we would
hear the voice and the sounds of the room of somebody else. The delay was a
fun part and sometimes in order to know when it is time to talk we were
communicating in the pad. Then we prepared recordings that streamed live
through our mount points to the rest, by using narratives from the texts we
wrote combined with sounds we created on spot. *

*I am not sure if I understand correctly your question about the
connections traced between the recordings but something that comes in my
mind is that as we were using one computer mostly, the input and output was
in the same source. So sometimes if I would listen to one stream and
recording/streaming simultaneously my sounds then my recording would have
fragments of the recording of others. I find this restriction fascinating
cause it makes us aware of audio 'events' in the computer and our
involvement in them. Then somehow the one audio was included in the other. *

> Feel free to respond to any / all parts of this email!
> Looking forward.
> Dan



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