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    maybe we need to lobby the app developers ... it is totally possible
    for them to make their apps available on their own websites, as some
    already do; probably it's not even very difficult ...<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/02/15 8:59 00PM, Tracey Benson
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      <div>Totally agree with you about having to go through Google
        play/iTunes. What I have found when working with audiences with
        AR is that many people find this a frustrating process, which
        for some people create a barrier to the work as they don't want
        to go through the process of finding the app in the store and
        installing. I also agree that many people, like you, would
        prefer to go to the website to get the app - it certainly is the
        way for tools like Open Office, GIMP and other FLOSS that I have
        downloaded to my laptop or desktop.</div>
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      <div>I try and post semi regular updates on projects via my
        website if you want to keep up-to-date with developments
        regarding the Look both Ways project. You can either subscribe
        or look under 'opinion' tab.</div>
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      <div>Cheers</div>
      <div>Tracey</div>
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              interesting, tracey. i did a project last year using an AR
              app called Zappar, which is similar to Aurasma, &amp; also
              not open source. it frustrates me that both of these apps
              (&amp; lots of others) are only available via google play
              or the apple store. we had people come to our project last
              year who did not want to sign up to google play &amp;
              therefore could not access the work. i also don't want to
              have to sign up to google in order to access free apps,
              &amp; i don't understand why app makers don't also make
              their apps downloadable from their web sites for those of
              us who don't want to use google play or app store. we are
              being forced into one or other system &amp; i would prefer
              that my work is accessible outside of these corporate
              structures.<br>
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              so i'm very interested to hear how things go with the new
              tool you are developing :)<br>
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                <div>Thank you Renate for the introduction and inviting
                  me to participate in a conversation about tools and
                  technologies.
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                  <div>I use a range of software tools in my creative
                    work and rely on a range of online tools to create
                    interactive artworks. Over the last couple of years
                    I have been exploring geo-locative and augmented
                    reality tools to make artworks that can be viewable
                    through hand held devices. An example is a series of
                    augmented reality 'walks' recently created in
                    Dunedin, Auckland and Copenhagen. I am currently
                    using a tool called Aurasma which has its pros and
                    cons, but generally a great tool to use. One of the
                    cons is that it is only available on limited devices
                    and I would like to work with software that is open
                    source, free and accessible to any smart phone or
                    tablet user. To this end, I am now working with a
                    developer in Bangalore, who I met at a recent Ada
                    Initiative ADACamp. Our plan is to create a tool for
                    the purpose of creating an AR walk of Bangalore and
                    our project is titled "Look both ways". We hope that
                    by mid year we will have a pilot ready to test.</div>
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                  <div>There is a philosophy that drives my practice,
                    which is focused on access . In short, I like to
                    think about tools and technologies simply as
                    creative mediums; and that like learning to paint or
                    create a screen print, there is both a technical and
                    a creative process to go through. I also use free
                    tools where possible as I like the idea that anyone
                    can make what I make - DIY. What I find frustrating
                    with so much art that is driven by technology is
                    that the technology limits the exchange between
                    audience and artist; or that it assumes too much
                    from the audience or it doesn't function
                    efficiently. </div>
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                  <div>In my day job as an online strategist, my focus
                    is on engaging audiences with online tools, so
                    accessibility in a technical and a social sense is
                    essential. The goal of accessibility and engagement
                    is pursued in a number of ways: by creating plain
                    English content; offering translations of content;
                    ensuring that websites are compliant with web
                    standards; and trying to provide a consistent and
                    responsive design screen sizes and hardware
                    platforms. These goals are also considered in my
                    creative work - e.g. access is a critical element to
                    the AR walks. Each walk was created with a blog and
                    a printed map, both of which could lead the
                    viewer/audience through the work, even if not
                    physically present.</div>
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                  <div>Renate, it is interesting that you mention gender
                    politics as it is a topic that I don't actively
                    think about or use as a subject in my creative work
                    of late. Yes, I am a feminist, in true sense of the
                    world, I unreservedly believe in social equity and
                    social justice. Over recent years that conviction
                    has played out in different ways, from being a trade
                    union delegate and harassment officer in my
                    workplace to increasingly working with Indigenous
                    peoples and scientists on projects that focus on
                    environmental justice and action. This is where the
                    word 'access' resonates in a different way for me -
                    in terms of people having access to fundamental
                    infrastructure so they have clean water and
                    renewable energy, let alone access to the online
                    tools and technologies that so many of us take for
                    granted. Over the past 5 or so years, I have been
                    increasingly focused on some of these issues as a
                    writer as well as working with Indigenous
                    organisations to build their online presence so they
                    can actively communicate with audiences and
                    stakeholders. So whilst my work has not been
                    directly dealing with feminist and women's issues
                    per se, I find networks like the ADA Initiative
                    inspiring as they are all about empowerment and
                    building self confidence as well as providing a
                    great community to network and collaborate. I am
                    also in awe of many wonderful media artists,
                    scientists and researchers, who are still yet to be
                    catalogued in Wikipedia. I mention this as I met a
                    mother and a daughter from Kerala and ADACamp who
                    facilitate a Wikithon on International Women's Day
                    to include entries on prominent women into
                    Wikipedia. There are similar events planned all over
                    the world for the forthcoming IWD. </div>
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                  <div>I think I will stop there as I am at risk of
                    writing a TLDR message (Too long didn't read)</div>
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                  <div>More soon.</div>
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                  <div>Cheers</div>
                  <div>Tracey</div>
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                            <div><font face="Verdana" size="2">Dr Tracey
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                      <div>On 08/02/2015, at 2:55 PM, Renate Terese
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                        recognize our next special guest, Tracey Benson.
                        She was a member of the<br>
                        moderating team from 2005 to 2007.  I am really
                        looking forward to having<br>
                        a conversation online.  It would be interesting
                        to hear about what you<br>
                        have been up to especially in regards to tools
                        and technologies and gender<br>
                        politics a thread that was carried over from
                         Ben Bogart and a<br>
                        conversation that he began on the correlation of
                        tools and their context<br>
                        and cultural conceptions in the design.
                         Interesting first week but we are<br>
                        looking forward to developing former threads and
                         introducing new ones.<br>
                        Welcome Tracey.  For now I will say goodnight
                        from the East coast of the<br>
                        US while in Australia Tracey must be enjoying
                        very warm summer weather and<br>
                        a second cup of coffee.<br>
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                        Tracey Benson is a media artist, writer and
                        researcher living in Canberra.<br>
                        Her work explores notions of place through
                        locative technologies,<br>
                        photography, online writing and video. Her work
                        has featured in many<br>
                        international and national emerging media
                        festivals since 1996. Tracey has<br>
                        a MA from QUT, Creative Industries and a PhD
                        from ANU, which explores<br>
                        online environments and social impacts in the
                        geo-physical world. Since<br>
                        2007, she has co-organised the Canberra chapter
                        of Dorkbot and is also<br>
                        Secretary/Treasurer of NZ based organisation
                        Intercreate. This<br>
                        organisation brings together artists, scientists
                        and Indigenous peoples to<br>
                        focus on environmental challenges and
                        sustainable solutions.<br>
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                        Visiting Assistant Professor of Art,Cornell
                        University<br>
                        Department of Art, Tjaden Hall Office:  306<br>
                        Ithaca, NY  14853<br>
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