<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi Spela, thank you for your perceptive and wise (that is a word I haven't used for a line time) comments on our endeavors here, that the activity itself is a meditation, a clarification of purpose. The following sentence touched me most: "That said, I also believe that only when working with/growing/observing
plants over a longer period of time does this alien group of living
beings begin to authentically displaces our perception of them -- and,
consequently, of ourselves."<br><br></div>First, that we can never transcend or get rid of our humanity; but we can understand ourselves, our limitations (perhaps what is human) better. The passage reminded me also of Socrates, someone who was very important in my intellectual growth; but of whom I had not thought for many years. But just recently I watched Rosselini's Italian TV production <i>Socrates</i>.<br><br></div>Also, I like a lot the way you pay attention to time, to the importance of duration (something we talked about a lot discussing boredom) in both observation--particularly of a radical other as plants--and understandin--that understanding the other is finally an understanding of oneself.<br><br></div>Ciao,<br></div>Murat<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 10:50 AM, nik gaffney <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nik@fo.am" target="_blank">nik@fo.am</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------<span class=""><br>
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On 07/06/15 02:09, Graham Teeple wrote:<br>
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My mind has been spiralling into the human, interspecies, and cyborg dimensions of these projects.<br>
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"Interacting with entities whose logic and communication patterns are not readily comprehensible to humans should be approached with care. As we move beyond a world dominated by information technology into an era in which the biological world is beginning to penetrate the 'technosphere', different modes of interaction may be required. We propose that parallel to the field of HCI - Human Computer Interaction, we should explore the field of HPI - Human Plant Interaction. HPI explores the nature of surfaces and processes required to facilitate reciprocal interaction between humans and plants. Historically, interaction between humans and plants has ranged from parasitic to collaborative. However, for HPI to become mutually beneficial, a symbiotic relationship may be most appropriate. Before a Human-Plant symbiosis becomes possible, we need to ask ourselves why, where and how can this two-way interface be realised? What cognitive and social biases need to be overcome? Can we develop a generalisable approach to interfacing with the entire plant kingdom, or do we require localised interactions between different species, ecotopes or alkaloids? How do we bridge the differences of time and place on each side of human-plant interfaces? And by rediscovering the value of humility, can humans learn how to become part of systems more complex, older and stranger than themselves?"<br>
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