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hi everyone,<br>
i'd like to reply to ken's question/lament at the end of his
introduction, but before i do that i'll give a quick introduction. i
am an empyre lurker since mostly i find i just don't have time to
read & respond to things; but i've been on this list since the
very beginning & enjoy being able to dip in when i can. <br>
<br>
like ken i am working in networked performance (cyberformance), but
at the other end of the spectrum - low-tech d.i.y. open source etc.,
un[der]funded & in the back alleys some miles away from the
ivory towers ;) my work often addresses environmental &
political issues, such as <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.wehaveasituation.net/">http://www.wehaveasituation.net/</a>
& <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://make-shift.net/">http://make-shift.net/</a>. i'm one
of the founders of UpStage, an open source browser-based platform
for cyberformance (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://upstage.org.nz/">http://upstage.org.nz/</a>) which
must now be one of the longest-running projects of its kind (since
2004). from 2007-2012 we held annual festivals of cyberformance,
involving hundreds of artists & audiences around the world (<a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://upstage.org.nz/blog/?page_id=1958"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://upstage.org.nz/blog/?page_id=1958">http://upstage.org.nz/blog/?page_id=1958</a></a>).
we released the third version of the software in 2014 & are now
investigating a complete rebuild of the platform.<br>
<br>
i was also one of the organisers of the CyPosium in 2012, a one-day
online symposium about cyberformance; all of the presentations are
archived on the website, <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.cyposium.net/">http://www.cyposium.net/</a>,
& after the event annie abrahams & i co-edited "CyPosium -
the book" (available from the website, free pdf & ebook, p.o.d.
hardcopy). i also do offline stuff, including most recently <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://unaussprechbarlich.tumblr.com/"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://unaussprechbarlich.tumblr.com/">http://unaussprechbarlich.tumblr.com/</a></a>
with annie abrahams, & in 2014 <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://talesfromthetowpath.net/">http://talesfromthetowpath.net/</a>
& <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://thesalmagundi.net/">http://thesalmagundi.net/</a><br>
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as i said i'd like to respond to ken's comments at the end of his
intro, his lament that "there have been only a handful of network
performance practitioners". i'd say there's been more than a handful
but i agree that it there it seems like there c/should be more &
that it's been slower than other digital artforms to develop.<br>
<br>
from my perspective i think there are a number of reasons for this,
including:<br>
- it's really hard. i often feel like i spend more time fighting
with technology than actually making the work, & it takes a kind
stupid determination to keep doing this for any length of time. <br>
- a lot of artists have a go at one networked performance project,
& then move on/back to other things, either because it's too
hard or it's just not their cup of tea.<br>
- my background is in theatre & i have observed quite a big
reluctance in the theatre world to embrace digital technology
outside of the lighting & sound box; i've encountered a
suspiciousness about it & an attitude that it's too far removed
from The Body. this appears to be unique to theatre people, as
dancers, musicians & other kinds of performers don't seem to
have the same problem with it. but this attitude is changing quite
quickly now that the internet has infiltrated daily life.<br>
- experimental theatre is at the poorer end of all the arts, &
to work with technology requires resources; stuff can be done
without money, but not without time, & if you don't have at
least a base level of money then you tend not to have any time.
& you need a lot of time for this kind of work.<br>
<br>
i'm sure there are other reasons as well but that's just off the top
of my head in between a number of things that are demanding my time
;)<br>
<br>
as ken says networked artists need other peers/nodes to play with,
& in my experience it has not been difficult to find those
people. i recommend the CyPosium website & book as a good
resource for anyone interested in finding out about the communities
that already exist, some for a long time. particularly maria
chatsichristodoulou's presentation which gives a good historical
summary of networked performance activity over the last 20+ years.
you can read the text, watch a recording & also download the
accompanying audience chat, here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cyposium.net/selected-presentations/chatzichristodoulou/">http://www.cyposium.net/selected-presentations/chatzichristodoulou/</a><br>
<br>
h : )<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13/01/16 8:56 05AM, Kenneth Fields
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Hi, checkin in.
<div class="">I’ve been working on live networked performance - in
high bandwidth scenarios </div>
<div class="">(research networks).</div>
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</div>
<div class="">The work takes a few directions: one, software
development (Artsmesh) which</div>
<div class="">manages complex audio/video/osc connections
(polystreams) between multiple networked peers.</div>
<div class="">We need to negotiate timezones, multiple divergent
time delays - pushing up against </div>
<div class="">the medium of relativity itself, synced world
clocks/metronomes and network probing tools. </div>
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</div>
<div class="">I’ve been thinking of this in terms of Presence
Engineering or Human Network </div>
<div class="">Interaction (HNI). HCI was a significant thing in
early media arts, so why not HNI.</div>
<div class="">Is 'the cloud’ the best we can do as metaphor;
rather nebulous and opaque if you ask me -</div>
<div class="">or even downright dishonest in convincing tenants to
give up power, knowledge and agency.</div>
<div class="">P2P and federated blogging systems (<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://artsmesh.io" class="">artsmesh.io</a>)
are an important aspect of the environment I </div>
<div class="">want to work in, as well as IPV6 only environments -
as I work in Beijing where IPV4 </div>
<div class="">is totally useless.</div>
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</div>
<div class="">It strikes me that artists adapted to computers in
the 80/90’s much more robustly, </div>
<div class="">differently from the way artists have taken to
real-time networking - with little concern for the </div>
<div class="">blackbox of routing, terrain and protocols through
and over which our presence signal proceeds. </div>
<div class="">The signal artist should be intentional about the
integrity of the entire reach/processes (compression) </div>
<div class="">of their medium - video/audio/control stream . The
medium - the signal itself - is the message.</div>
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<div class="">On the artistic side, I seem to be using
real/tangible instrumentation again, rather than </div>
<div class="">controller type instruments, as
immediacy/presence/embodiment/vibration is ironically
foregrounded </div>
<div class="">in this medium of delayed signals. Every 0.ms
counts. Time and presence is proximate/fore </div>
<div class="">again in the delayed/networked environment. Real
time composition (improvisation) is</div>
<div class="">fascinating again, after a period of having
offloaded the capacity of memory and thinking to </div>
<div class="">the asynchronicity and large buffer sizes of offline
editing. Liveness.</div>
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</div>
<div class="">The artist reads Bergson once again with new
understanding and is reminded of the </div>
<div class="">critical moment of the Einstein/Bergson debate 100
years ago (Signal Science, Jimena Canales); </div>
<div class="">how physics finally claimed the authority of
philosophy and how this has affected the</div>
<div class="">very current trajectory of art/humanities in the
service of science and the academy.</div>
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</div>
<div class="">Virtual reality stimulated a discourse in ontology
and speculative reality (all object oriented);</div>
<div class="">while network performance will likely do the same
with regard to presence and time </div>
<div class="">(non object oriented).</div>
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<div class="">I'm mostly commenting here because I’m truly at a
loss as to why it is such a slowly </div>
<div class="">evolving platform. Since when have artists been so
reluctant to tackle such a ripe medium - </div>
<div class="">in a world that is otherwise so totally saturated
in the network paradigm. </div>
<div class="">Stockbrokers/accountants are more critically savvy
to networks than is today’s media artist. </div>
<div class="">Is it because the Facebook Website is such a
satisfying/hypnotic platform? The fact is that </div>
<div class="">a network performance artist needs other
peers/nodes to play with, and I am lamenting that </div>
<div class="">there have been only a handful of network
performance practitioners. If artists are</div>
<div class="">(non-conventionally) just waiting for it to be
easy… that moment is already past. </div>
<div class="">You just have to dip into the UDP waters a bit.</div>
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<div class="">Ken</div>
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