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Hola Isabelle,<br>
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Thanks for the on the ground report.<br>
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That reminded me of this recent photographic essay of Calais:<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://thefunambulist.net/2016/02/04/police-fences-and-containers-a-photographic-report-from-calais-jungle/">http://thefunambulist.net/2016/02/04/police-fences-and-containers-a-photographic-report-from-calais-jungle/</a><br>
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The issues are always about the "security for the community" with
little regard for the "ephemeral" routes of escape and<br>
the imperceptible communities.<br>
<br>
While certainly supporting some human processes the inhuman becomes
the basic response. <br>
<br>
Very best,<br>
Ricardo<br>
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I am just back from Calais jungle where I spent the weekend as
I want to make machinima workshops there about daily lives in
the jungle. On the sencond day I only succeeded to give an
english lesson through a machinima software to 2 young kurds,
but what I saw there is full of energy, settlement, more
looking like an emerging ephemeral city than a camp. There are
now two schools, two libraries, a disco, many restaurants,
etc.. The governmental answer to that is the will to destroy
this and reemplace the jungle by a camp, closed and securised,
full of white, unhuman containers looking like cattle pen.<br>
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What I also saw made me think to a taz, perh<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2016-02-08 3:48 GMT+01:00 Ana Valdés <span
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<p dir="ltr">In all my visits to Palestine Damascus Jordan
and Baghdad I met both Muslims Christians and secularized
ppl, "freelance muslims" as much I am a "freelance
catholic". In Damascus I interviewed Khaled Meshal Hamas
political leader at that time the Hamas direction was in
Damascus now they are resettled in Qatar since they don't
support Assad's regime in Syria. Meshal was living as a
refugee among refugees in a poor neighborhood of Damascus.
The creation of the state of Israel created millions of
refugees the difference between the people reaching Europe
today is the Palestinian created refugee camps in all the
countries around Palestine and they were welcomed by Syria
Jordan and Lebanon.<br>
The English writer John Berger, himself living in exile
from his native UK, in a peasant village in the mountains
in France near Switzerland, wrote once: "The 20th century
was the first time in human history the concept of home
dissapeared. The home heimat le pays all aceptions of the
same feeling of belonging to a place to a country they are
shattered now."<br>
Millions are on the move settled and resettled the maps
are being redrawn nobody is home any longer.<br>
When I came to Palestine for first time and told them I
lived in Sweden in exile because I was sent there by the
United Nations directly from jail many of our new friends
laughed and told me they had also being in Israeli jails
at different occasions.<br>
And back in Uruguay I joke with friends and tell them
before you could ask ppl where do you live, have we being
neighbors? Did we go to thr same school?<br>
Now we ask you seem known to me I recognize you in which
jail or military caserne we met?<br>
The jail or the refugee camp risk to become the world's
common denominator <br>
Ana</p>
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Hey Ricardo, all,<br>
<br>
It's true that the numbers related to the current
refugee crisis<br>
surrounding Syria are not as excessive as during the
second world war.<br>
In relative terms, with Europe at about 550 million
inhabitants around<br>
1940 compared to 730 million now, the scope was even
bigger, then.<br>
<br>
Yet, there are also significant differences such that
just looking at<br>
the numbers is not fair to either event. During the
second world war,<br>
Europe itself was in turmoil, whereas surrounding the
Syrian refugee<br>
crisis, the turmoil is wholly happening outside of
Europe's borders.<br>
Second, the differences between Syrian refugees and,
say, the average<br>
Dutchman (which of course doesn't really exist), now, is
probably<br>
bigger, and occurring on a wider scope, than the
differences between,<br>
say, the Czech and, say, Polish middle class during or
close to the<br>
second world war. It's simply easier to reconcile
oneself with others<br>
who are more similar than with those who are more
different. That's<br>
not a matter of being racist, it's human nature. To go
beyond that, to<br>
step over that prejudice, if you will, takes effort and
has to be done<br>
consciously.<br>
<br>
As you suggest, Ricardo, there might be a greater
neo-liberalist plan<br>
to profit from all this, but that also doesn't
automatically mean that<br>
the crisis is fabricated in order to make a profit. It
seems to me<br>
there's a lot of opportunism and incompetence at work.
As well as<br>
convenient negligence by the media, but all these are
other stories.<br>
<br>
But, none of this says anything about what the
not-so-distant future<br>
might bring. Will western Europe's xenophobic flames be
fanned by the<br>
relatively large influx of non-Europeans?<br>
<br>
Babak<br>
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On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Ricardo Dominguez <<a
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> Hola Tod@s and Babak,<br>
><br>
> I look forward to our dialogue about how the
history of "kinopolitics" (the<br>
> politics of movement)<br>
> will re-produce segmentation and segregation or
integration and citizenship<br>
> (Echoes of Rome)?<br>
> Or perhaps some other unexpected social formations
will happen beyond these<br>
> histories<br>
> (my anti-anti-utopain tendencies speaking here).<br>
><br>
> Of course the processes of integration vs.
segregation does seem to depend<br>
> on where the<br>
> movement and flows starts and to lesser degree
where it ends.<br>
><br>
> If you look at numbers of recent flows of
communities into the E.U. starting<br>
> from World War II to the<br>
> present moment the numbers flowing are worth
considering.<br>
><br>
> The movement of migrants, asylum seekers, and
refugees was over 15 million<br>
> between<br>
> 1939 to 1945, while right now Syrians leaving the
wars zones number around<br>
> 4.1 million<br>
> since 2010. One can add a few million more flowing
away from other conflict<br>
> zones north<br>
> to the E.U. and these current numbers are not even
close to reaching the<br>
> numbers of migrants,<br>
> asylum seekers, or refugee that occurred during
WWII:<br>
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> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://newint.org/features/2016/01/01/global-refugee-crisis-the-facts/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://newint.org/features/2016/01/01/global-refugee-crisis-the-facts/</a><br>
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> (The link to an infographic that might be useful to
consider.)<br>
><br>
> So the "crisis" is not about the "numbers"-but
about the social imaginary<br>
> anchored on to<br>
> the bodies that moving that are activating violent
atavistic response<br>
> (racist politics) that<br>
> neo-liberalism(ism) can profits from via private
detention centers and<br>
> prisons and<br>
> corporate controlled border gates.<br>
><br>
> So it is not about the numbers or the facts of
crossing-but the where they<br>
> coming<br>
> from that is the "crisis."<br>
><br>
> Ricardo<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 2/7/16 2:29 AM, Babak Fakhamzadeh wrote:<br>
>><br>
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>> Hi all,<br>
>><br>
>> We've got quite a big topic on our hands,
making it harder to single<br>
>> out a particular angle or narrative. Perhaps
not an unreasonable<br>
>> starting point is the current refugee crisis in
Europe. As Renate in<br>
>> the opening email hints at, Rome was at its
peak when it actively<br>
>> incorporated the peoples, barbarians perhaps,
on their frontiers,<br>
>> Caesar himself extending Roman citizenship to
the Gauls and others.<br>
>><br>
>> Europe has been a continent of immigrants,
virtually all 'native'<br>
>> Europeans originally descending from immigrants
coming in from the<br>
>> Eurasian plains(, with perhaps only the Basques
being the exception).<br>
>> So, in many ways, the recent new arrivals
coming in from the direction<br>
>> of the Middle East are just the latest in a
long line of immigrants.<br>
>> Yet, the negative European backlash is strong.
Perhaps driven by the<br>
>> recent and, also strong, undercurrent of
xenophobia in many European<br>
>> countries, the 'otherness' of the Syrian
arrivals is emphasised and<br>
>> their presence actively resisted.<br>
>><br>
>> Now, I wonder, my question to us on the list,
what are the<br>
>> consequences of the arrival of this sizeable
group of immigrants going<br>
>> to be, for Europe, over the next 5 to, say, 10
years? Will the whole<br>
>> issue simply fizzle out and the immigrants
simply be integrated? Will<br>
>> the EU fall apart? Will some countries secede
from the Union? Will<br>
>> some countries turn into virtual police states?<br>
>> And, why?<br>
>><br>
>> And, related, how are those countries that do
take in larger number of<br>
>> immigrants going to deal with making sure their
integration is not<br>
>> going to be botched in the same way that
Germany, Holland and France<br>
>> botched the integration of specifically Turkish
and Moroccan<br>
>> immigrants in the 1960s and onwards?<br>
>><br>
>> Looking forward to the responses :)<br>
>><br>
>> Babak<br>
>><br>
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