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    Hola Tod@s<br>
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    Thank you both for you thoughts on TBT Tim and Ashely.<br>
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    I often connect the performative matrix (or kinopolitics) of the
    gesture/s that TBT functions in as an expanded sense of <br>
    Brecht's gestus (that sounds like justice). So that movement across
    border-scapes towards water/sustenance as a <br>
    way to manifests a set of social relations: or undocumented or
    citizens without borders , data-body relations, <br>
    or geo-relations of flow, blockage, alter-navigations. And yes the
    question of the intimately connected sense of <br>
    the political and conceptual become part and partial of TBT's
    recombinant theater. One that includes the NGO's<br>
    we worked with on the Anza Borrego area ,in Southern California,
    developing the gesture over a couple of years.<br>
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    Also, I think, that TBT's geo-poetic system echos the old saw that
    this gesture is not enough of a map or territory, or enough<br>
    of a tracing to meet the demands of the utilitarian calls that are
    being made. Yet, this gesture disobeys the demands of border
    aesthetics as it responds the needs of those who are moving across
    the the Devil's Highway everyday and everywhere. <br>
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    The gesture is not oriented towards tracing the real, but rather an
    experimentation in contact with the real. <br>
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    That TBT performs something like this.<br>
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    P.S. I will answer some other questions being posed in the other
    lines of dialogue on list a bit later<br>
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    Abrazos,<br>
    Ricardo<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/18/16 5:29 AM, Ashley Ferro-Murray
      Spadola wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Thanks, Ricardo, for your description. Inspired by
        your earlier comments on kinopolitics - I wonder too if we can
        think of gesture literally as it relates to TBT. I am thinking
        about the physical gestures of those using the device.
        Performative gestures of movement across space, toward water,
        etc. These physical gestures of course as intimately connected
        to the political and conceptual gestures that the project
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 11:56 PM,
          Timothy Conway Murray <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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            So very glad to see you back publishing with Ctheory,
            Ricardo.  The<br>
            Transborder Immigrant Tool is an incredibly inventive
            project whose<br>
            graceful and watery poetry deserves very wide
            dissemination.  Indeed we<br>
            might consider electronic publishing, from journal to
            listserv, as an<br>
            exemplary means to transversing international borders.<br>
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            Cheers,<br>
            <br>
            Tim<br>
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            Timothy Murray<br>
            Professor of Comparative Literature and English<br>
            Taylor Family Director, Society for the Humanities<br>
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            A D White House<br>
            Cornell University,<br>
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            On 2/17/16 9:42 AM, "Ricardo Dominguez" &lt;<a
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          <div dir="ltr">Ashley Ferro-Murray Spadola<br>
            PhD Candidate<br>
            Dept. Theater, Dance &amp; Performance Studies <br>
            University of California, Berkeley<br>
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