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EM BY THE PUISSANCE<span> <br></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:courier"><span><br></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:courier"><span>Last Friday our guest participant this week Adeena Karasick had sent what I thought was a very interesting post to the list with the title "GRAB EM BY THE PUISSANCE" describing her reactions to the election One of the members of the list reacted to it in total outrage (I don't remember the person's name at the moment). Since then Adeena neither received any of the Empyre posts nor, as far as she can tell, her posts appeared on the list. She is very disappointed. She is an amazing artist, and I am sorry that we are deprived of her input. She is absolutely convinced that she is banished from the list though her posts are in the Empyre archives. Ironically, for some reason, she is not permitted to enter the archives and see. I tried to solve the problem to no avail.</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:courier"><span><br></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:courier"><span>Here I am posting both Adeena's post, the one that caused such a heart burn to one of the members, and also Adeena's response. I think they are worth being included here:<br> </span></span></p>
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EM BY THE PUISSANCE<span> <br></span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:courier"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:courier"><span><br></span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:courier"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:courier"><span></span></span>All
through the nightmarish disbelief and utter delirium of yesterday, I kept
wanting to post something here, but it felt frivolous, indulgent to be thinking
about language games; about the celebration of multiplicity given the very real
effects of the duplicity that we find all around us.<span> </span>But, in the apocalyptic aftermath of
yesterday, I am awake. And I keep thinking about how language is entwined with
being; (whether for Wittgenstein, Sapir Whorf or Kabbalah for that matter),
language is inseparable from perception, cognition, behavior. And its very
renegade multiplicitous excess, (evident in Alan’s “splatter texts” or Murat’s
interventions, our multiple readings), it’s this very Sprachspiel that will
save us…it’s precisely through our attention to these “games” that
transformation and change happen.<span> </span>If
rules of language are analogous to the rules of games; ie if saying something
in language is analogous to making a move in a game, (each with its own codes,
grammar, relations, contexts), and though we never fully know the rules of the
game, we are always learning, internalizing, and becoming intimate with a
massive, multipart, global algorithm, discovering is ALLEGO’RHYTHMS;
simultaneously learning and unlearning the systems, the codes.<span> </span>And I think this is something that binds all
3 of us, Alan and Murat – especially here I’m thinking of your fantastic essay
at the end of "Hamlet and Its Hidden Texts: Poems as Commentary in Murat’s
new Animals of Dawn (which was an amazing pleasure to read).<span> </span>The idea that not just that the rules are
infinitely changing but that you have to go inside the game and change the
game.<span> " <br></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:courier"><span><br></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:courier"><span><br></span></span></p>
<span>"Hey everyone-- so sorry to upset anyone! Puissance means force and
power, and my parodic title was meant in the spirit of intervention,
subversion, of re empowerment. So sorry to cause a problem -- last thing
I was intending. Looking forward to some real dialogue." <br><br></span></div><span>Ciao,<br></span></div><span>Murat<br></span><div><div><span></span></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Murat Nemet-Nejat <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:muratnn@gmail.com" target="_blank">muratnn@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi everybody, since the beginning of the month, every time someone encountered an idea or subject, or image one disagreed with, the reaction has been one of outrage and dismissive withdrawal or one-liners instead of engaging with the adverse statement or object, maybe assuming that other <b>might</b> have a legitimate point of view. This is extremely unfortunate. Finally, as an outsider (not completely part of the digital world), was invited to be the guest moderator to bring "different" ideas, approaches, points of view, to a small degree, to resist the splintered echo chambers that digital world is prone to create. From the beginning, the idea was not to agree or disagree; but to engage, hoping that from that engagement new thoughts, unexpected paths of exploration may develop. <b>I THINK IT IS TIME TO DO THAT.<br><br></b></div><b>Ciao,<br>Murat</b> <br></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 1:12 AM, simon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:swht@clear.net.nz" target="_blank">swht@clear.net.nz</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------<span><br>
On 12/11/16 12:49, Murat Nemet-Nejat wrote:<br>
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That was the real message<br>
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all I really wanted to say: a porte-parole.<br>
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Best,<br>
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Simon<div class="m_8895837195271333801HOEnZb"><div class="m_8895837195271333801h5"><br>
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