<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Peter, Alan, yes. Exactly, the fight is against this discontinuity --rather, engagement which means continuity of attention (dialogue), something the digital institutions pull one away from.<br><br></div>Peter, the Fassbinder quote is very interesting, partly because it is double edged. On the one hand, as Alan does, one can see it as an example of splatter. On the other hand, it is also a manifesto for crossing "part lines" (left or right).<br><br></div>Ciao,<br></div>Murat <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Alan Sondheim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sondheim@panix.com" target="_blank">sondheim@panix.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------<br><br>
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Hi Peter, what is that from? I remember his play Garbage, the City, and Death, and had a hard time following him after that.<br>
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But the quote is germane; what I've been trying to do is deal with a phenomenology of splatter - which also relates by the way to the sped-up information flow online; nothing sticks, but history and depth may be lost. It goes back to the saying "but wait! there's more!" (not really, but) - and that "more" is in deep disconnect with what came before - to the extent that the semiosphere so to speak is constantly thrown off...<br>
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- Alan<br>
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2016, Peter Valente wrote:<br>
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Hi All,<br>
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I've been following the comments and while reading them I'm reminded<br>
of this quote from Rainer Werner Fassbinder which I think is very<br>
interesting and thought provoking in light of the recent events:<br>
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"I keep noticing all the places where something stinks. Whether that<br>
is right or left, high or low, doesn't mean shit to me. And I shoot in<br>
all directions, wherever I notice something stinks."<br>
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Best,<br>
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Peter<br>
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On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Murat Nemet-Nejat <<a href="mailto:muratnn@gmail.com" target="_blank">muratnn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Adeenah Karasick sent a post to the list this morning. For some reason it is not appearing on the list despite my different attempts. I am sending it to the list through my own e-mail:<br>
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GRAB EM BY THE PUISSANCE<br>
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All through the nightmarish disbelief and utter delirium of yesterday, I kept wanting to post something here, but it felt frivolous, indulgent to be thinking about language games; about the celebration of multiplicity given the very real effects of the duplicity that we find all around us.<br>
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But, in the apocalyptic aftermath of yesterday, I am awake. And I keep thinking about how language is entwined with being; (whether for Wittgenstein, Sapir Whorf or Kabbalah for that matter), language is inseparable from perception, cognition, behavior. And its very renegade multiplicitous excess, (evident in Alan?s ?splatter texts? or Murat?s interventions, our multiple readings), it?s this very Sprachspiel that will save us?it?s precisely through our attention to these ?games? that transformation and change happen.<br>
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If rules of language are analogous to the rules of games; ie if saying something in language is analogous to making a move in a game, (each with its own codes, grammar, relations, contexts), and though we never fully know the rules of the game, we are always learning, internalizing, and becoming intimate with a massive, multipart, global algorithm, discovering is ALLEGO?RHYTHMS; simultaneously learning and unlearning the systems, the codes.<br>
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And I think this is something that binds all 3 of us, Alan and Murat ? especially here I?m thinking of your fantastic essay at the end of "Hamlet and Its Hidden Texts: Poems as Commentary in Murat?s new Animals of Dawn (which was an amazing pleasure to read).<br>
The idea that not just that the rules are infinitely changing but that you have to go inside the game and change the game.<br>
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Adeena Karasick<br>
adeenakarasick at <a href="http://cs.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">cs.com</a><br>
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On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Murat Nemet-Nejat <<a href="mailto:muratnn@gmail.com" target="_blank">muratnn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Foreign entanglements are not part of his central vision, except: of course we should have a strong military (I assume to look strong).<br>
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Murat<br>
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On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Ana Vald?s <<a href="mailto:agora158@gmail.com" target="_blank">agora158@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Beautiful and scary Murat! And horrible true...Trump had the charisma of ? boa constrictor mesmerizing its prey. Hillary is clever but no charisma at all.<br>
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Skickat fr?n min iPad<br>
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9 nov. 2016 kl. 13:58 skrev Murat Nemet-Nejat <<a href="mailto:muratnn@gmail.com" target="_blank">muratnn@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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Alan,<br>
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Here is the opening section of my essay "Eleven Septembers Later: Readings of Benjamin Hollander's Vigilance" which was included in Benjamin's poem book Vigilance in 2005. It related directly to what you are saying and also connects with the discussions we started here last week:<br>
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I. Love and State<br>
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The genius of fascism is that it is based on love. Here the leviathan of state turns into a performer of gentle punishment, loving duress. In most fascisms, the public at large ?for a short and brute period at least- is in love with its leader. Freedom is falling politically out of love. In capitalist fascism the eye ?petit-pointed with pain, and yearning- is the sine qua non tool of love. By his images, the leader ogles the public into his erotic, protective, parental embrace; the public responds also with his eyes to this embrace. T.V. is a pornographic contraption of communal fuck, a bait and switch, double-mirrored peep show, while looking being looked at, seeing while being seen into. A colossal move on our clits. Freedom starts with an aversion of the eyes -a moral modesty!- a decision not to see, the eye blurring in mist, choosing a mournful blindness, which puts a stop to the erotic synergy. Freedom is a vigil towards stasis ?an action against flow ? a ?seei<br>
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ng? into oneself, transforming the eye into an ascetic guerilla weapon.<br>
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Freedom is photographic contemplation,1 contra incest.<br>
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send home my long strayed eyes to me.<br>
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which (oh) too long have dwelt on thee (John Donne, The Message)<br>
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But now I have drunk thy sweet salt tears,<br>
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And though thou pour more I?ll depart;<br>
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My picture vanished, vanish fears,<br>
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That I can be undamaged by that art (JD, Witchcraft by a Picture)<br>
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Photographic seeing wrests a trace of time into a process of perception, on time. The computer is the supreme sublime dialectical medium. Born out of military seamen, it is the womb of chaos. It is the asymmetric weapon of subversion and the tool of extreme vigilance of the state. Pornography is of its essence, sites of secret communication, loci of yearning, condensations most monitored by the state, the place where the eye is the common denominator of eros and control. Computer is where both the extremely private and extremely public fuse, and are in mortal conflict with each other.<br>
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Born out of a belief in the freedom of light, photography is the anti-digital medium, the awakener from the capital?s illusion that anything can be converted into anything, that gravity, the process by which objects hit the ground, does not exist.<br>
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Thinning time and space out of air, computer points to both the illusion, and truth, of the Oneness of God. "<br>
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Ciao,<br>
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Murat<br>
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On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Murat Nemet-Nejat <<a href="mailto:muratnn@gmail.com" target="_blank">muratnn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Alan, It is closer to me to a phenomelogy of abjection, of humiliation and being overlooked. (Not that what you are referring to is not true or relevant.) This election tilted in the rust belt states where for at least twenty years the blue collar population was in a rut, economically stuck with little expectation of improvement. Nobody did anything for them (with the possible exception of the saving of the auto industry). He spoke to them, and they elected him. The unfortunate thing is that nothing in the concrete policies he is offering, as far as I can see, has anything that will improve the blue collar lot. In fact, it will do the opposite. The gigantic tax cuts (the easiest and fastest laws the congress will put through) will aggravate the vast divide. They seem to have been taken by a snake oil salesman. I hope I am wrong. Of I am, it will make the result maybe a bit more bearable.<br>
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As for the rest of the awful consequences of this result, you are right --desire (or hatred) will probably be the emotions stoked to get the engine running. Personally, I have been very reluctant to use the word "fascist" when I didn't like someone or some decision. But what happened here is so similar to what happened in the thirties in Europe, particularly in the case of Mussolini. A leader who jutted his chin out and projected sexual prowess, who inflamed the grievances (some of it justified) of the populaca, while at the same time making alliances with the privileged, the captains of industry, the Pope. A divided polity and spineless politician who supported him believing they could control the guy. Then a militia group that will "protect" the movement. Does it all sound similar?<br>
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A year ago, I would have said all this is not possible in this country. There are laws, the constitution, etc. etc. But the open, unabashed contempt for the law that Trump showed without any punishment and rejection. Politicians for their venal purposes (a tax break here, a safe congressional seat there, etc.) supported him.<br>
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Ciao,<br>
Murat<br>
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Not that it matters, but I've talked about a Trump win for the past fourteen months; I thought it inevitable - not because of policy, but because of a violent phenomenology of desire he played through. This is covered somewhat in the splatter text below. I'm too distraught to have an empyre discussion on aesthetic issues, at least at this point; I'd like to discuss what a phenomenology of desire might be - not only in terms of economic/sexist/racist fury, but also in relation to bodies and virtual attacks upon them. The public misogyny was nothing I've seen before; I want to understand this. We must learn how to resist, now, or at least open a discussion about this.<br>
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Apologies if I'm wrong on this; it's difficult to think of anything else.<br>
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- Alan<br>
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2016, Alan Sondheim wrote:<br>
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My name is Alan Sondheim and I approve this message. I'm an<br>
artist, writer, and musician, working in entangled media.<br>
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Recently, I've been think of "semiotic splatter" - fragmented<br>
and chaotic semiosis (the process of signification in language<br>
or literature, the production of meaning), and splatter both as<br>
control and dissolution. I use this term to indicate that<br>
semiosis is never totalized, that it falls apart, fails,<br>
coagulates and clumps; it's related to an incessant presencing<br>
of material which appears more and more stale and derogated.<br>
Semiotic splatter is related as well to strange attractors in<br>
chaos theory and leads to the problematic of semiosis and<br>
"coagulative hardening" - for example the rise of<br>
totalitarianism out of (political, economic) chaos.<br>
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The semiotic splatter work is at<br>
<a href="http://www.alansondheim.org/splatter.txt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.alansondheim.org/sp<wbr>latter.txt</a> - a good introduction<br>
to my work in general.<br>
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A word about my practice - to write and produce as continuous<br>
praxis; ; I've been doing daily pieces (text/music/image/video)<br>
since 1994, as an ongoing meditation - first, on 'cyberspace,'<br>
but now extended elsewhere. The pieces are organized through a<br>
series of texts; the most recent are at<br>
<a href="http://www.alansondheim.org/uf.txt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.alansondheim.org/uf<wbr>.txt</a> and<br>
<a href="http://www.alansondheim.org/ug.txt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.alansondheim.org/ug<wbr>.txt</a> .<br>
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Thanks to Murat, Renate, and Timothy, for the invitation to<br>
participate for the week!<br>
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