<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Yes Maria, he is in my opinion an amzing artist and writer. Have you read his "Lieutenant" pieces. Absolutely amazing. We did a collaboration together on Bushes "surge" in Irak (interestingly the same title as Alan's "surge"). Chirot also write very nice things about my work, including an very insightful review of my essay/book <i>The Peripheral Space of Photography</i>.<br><br></div>Ciao,<br></div>Murat<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Maria Damon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:damon001@umn.edu" target="_blank">damon001@umn.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------<br>
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<p>Oh I adore the work of David-Baptiste Chirot! We used one of his
RubBeings as the cover for Poetry and Cultural Studies: A Reader.<br>
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<div>Of course, Ana is one of these persons on Empyre list,
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Here, I would like to evoke the name of another amazing
thinker, writer, collagist who lives in Milwaukee and
unfortunate can not be part of these discussion. He is David
Chirot. His collection of discarded objects in the streets
of Milwaukee, basically junk, to make his art is very
similar to the process. From what I understand, he was under
constant surveillance while he lived in Europe.<br>
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the discussion closely. And, the tech-nic-al
bre-ak dow- on the listserve.</div>
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thread I hope continues in new week — w/ new
moderators and participants — the role of
e-x-arts in -empyre —in a time when many are
confronting Exile, Escape, … </div>
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is something I shared with Alan Sondheim as
a sidebar (off the list) using the sound
track (by <span style="text-align:-webkit-auto">Azure
Carter, voice and song </span><span style="text-align:-webkit-auto">Luke
Damrosch, programming, recording,
engineering </span><span style="text-align:-webkit-auto">and
Sondheim on flute … [</span><span style="text-align:-webkit-auto">their CD
will be released with Public </span><span style="text-align:-webkit-auto">Eyesore]. … </span><span style="text-align:-webkit-auto"> </span><span style="text-align:-webkit-auto">as the
soundtrack for this excerpt):</span></div>
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and escape manual :: both literally and
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book [play the soundtrack that Sondheim
posted: <a href="http://www.alansondheim.org/protoborrow.mp3" style="text-align:-webkit-auto" target="_blank">http://www.alansondhei<wbr>m.org/protoborrow.mp3</a><span style="text-align:-webkit-auto">]:</span></blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite" style="font-family:Times-Roman">In literary
histories of modernism, the word expatriate
has, until recently, referred to a group of
American writers and artists living in Paris
and the Côte d’ Azur in the 1920s. Ernest
Hemingway immortalized this
supposedly high-living crowd in his novel A
Moveable Feast (1964), as did Gertrude Stein
and F. Scott Fitzgerald, but counter to the
mistaken view of a decadent and
politically detached expatriate group, many
of these same expatriates, including Rose
and Bob Brown, began by fleeing, penniless,
through Mexico and into Latin America in
1917 (often to avoid jail for sedition or
draft dodging). In their actions, they
broadened the definition of expatriates and
stressed the literary and artistic
vanguardists?connections to loss, exile,
violence, and narrow escapes. These were not
just themes in later avant-garde art;
these were the lived experience of a
generation, where a poverty-induced
make-do resourcefulness reinforced collages
of found, often discarded, objects; where
exile led to a fascination with otherness
and displacement; where their disgust with
the xenophobia sweeping the United States
and Europe, in the late teens and early
1920s, led to their flaunting diversity,
difference, internationalism, and otherness;
and where the necessity to avoid arrest
fueled an interest in masquerade, coded
allusions, and inside jokes. (from Chapter
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