<div dir="ltr"><div><div>(G)no)ledge of what is/and is not embodied in language.<br><br></div>Ciao,<br></div>Murat<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Michael Boughn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mboughn@rogers.com" target="_blank">mboughn@rogers.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------<br><div dir="ltr">Jerome -- I am not sure what you mean by counter-culture sounding board. I meant that the poetics of the New American Poetry -- as varied as they were -- mostly agreed that the poem is [an] opening into forms of knowing specific to the potential of language events it embodies. It is not about "expressing feelings". It is not perfectly composed out of various predictable tropes. It is not a statement about what you already know. It's a venture and as a venture it opens into a transformative gnosis of the deep unfolding dimensionality of the world. Charles Olson called it projective. I won't rehearse all the arguments and misrepresentations of that, only to say that Olson's projective resonates with what the philosopher/scientist Karen Barad calls (re)configurations of entangled emergence. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Jerome Sala <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeromesala502@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeromesala502@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------<br>
Michael,<br>
I was intrigued in your statement by what you described as a<br>
<span>"commitment to poetry as a particular mode of knowledge" connected to<br>
</span>the writing in the Donald Allen anthology. Could you elaborate on this<br>
a bit? Were you thinking of poetry in its function as a<br>
counter-cultural sounding board? I ask because lately (and this is<br>
probably in a different sense than what you were thinking), when I<br>
read philosophy/science about the whole area consciousness/cognitive<br>
studies, I sometimes think poetry is a particular way of knowing the<br>
mind.<br>
<br>
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Murat Nemet-Nejat <<a href="mailto:muratnn@gmail.com" target="_blank">muratnn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> "...<br>
<span>> n the last week, beginning with an announcement at Dispatches that went out to 200 poets and was picked up and reposted to many more, we responded to the Trump disaster with a call for contributions to an anthology of poetry of resistance to the new fascist movement. Within three days, we were inundated with positive responses. Using the speed of the internet, the editorial group has now expanded to a broad and diverse group of 10 poets, each of whom has reached out to 10-20 of their friends. The book now has 200+ contributors lined up. We hope to publish it as an INITIAL act of resistance shortly after Trump’s inauguration. It is the sudden crystallization of a latent being-in-common that this tool, this medium, makes possible. We don’t need a central committee because we have the internet.<br>
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</span>> That immediacy energizes the being-in-common in ways that intensify the resistance to the Administration’s professionalized death formations (see, for instance, The Poetry Foundation website, or The Great Philadelphia Poetry Warehouse and Media Centre), and creates opportunities for further proliferation of relation beyond the immediate, not only within the virtual space, but beyond it in the creation of formations in the rough and tumble world. The anthology then will become a kind of decentered centre which will provoke occasions for coming together in the world. At a time when the Trump Doom looms before us in its authoritarian darkness, such small centres of life and thinking are what we have to hold on to to keep the light alive and extend the resistance in more and more networks of being-in-common." (from Michael Boghn's Introductory Statement as a guest contributor in November)<br>
><br>
> I would like to present this announcement for the anthology that Michael is talking about -- an example of words turning into act even though the act itself in words may be:<br>
><br>
> "<br>
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> Spuyten Duyvil Press<br>
><br>
> and<br>
><br>
> Dispatches Editions<br>
><br>
> announce the publication of<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Resist Much / Obey Little<br>
><br>
> Inaugural Poems to the Resistance<br>
><br>
> “To The States, or any one of them, or any city of The States, Resist much, obey little;<br>
><br>
> Once unquestioning obedience, once fully enslaved;<br>
><br>
> Once fully enslaved, no nation, state, city, of this earth, ever afterward resumes its liberty.”<br>
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> – Walt Whitman<br>
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> Edited by<br>
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> Michael Boughn, John Bradley, Brenda Cardenas, Ching-In Chen, Lynne DeSilva-Johnson,<br>
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> Kass Fleisher, Roberto Harrison, Kent Johnson, Andrew Levy, Ruben Medina, Philip Metres,<br>
><br>
> Julie Patton, Margaret Randall, Michael Rothenberg, Anne Waldman, Tyrone Williams<br>
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> Forthcoming early in 2017, to coincide with the Presidential Inauguration<br>
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> Submissions are open until December 7, 2016<br>
><br>
> Send yours to <a href="mailto:poetrywardispatch@gmail.com" target="_blank">poetrywardispatch@gmail.com</a><br>
><br>
> (please send no more than three Word Document pages total)<br>
><br>
> Ciao,<br>
> Murat<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Murat Nemet-Nejat <<a href="mailto:muratnn@gmail.com" target="_blank">muratnn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Renate, I have been using Firefox and gmail. I still had all these problems.<br>
>><br>
>> Ciao,<br>
>> Murat<br>
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>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 11:42 PM, Michael Boughn <<a href="mailto:mboughn@rogers.com" target="_blank">mboughn@rogers.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
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>>> Hi Alan -- I don't think it is closed. I have no idea how this thing works and have had a very difficult time getting my statement posted.<br>
>>><br>
>>> What would you like me to do? Post it again?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Mike<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Alan Sondheim <<a href="mailto:sondheim@panix.com" target="_blank">sondheim@panix.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>>>><br>
>>>> Hi Michael,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I didn't receive anything about submitting; is it possible to send this out again or is it already closed? I think there are a lot of people on this list who would be interested.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thanks, Alan<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> (Footnote - does anyone know why it's impossible to quote from a message sent out? are people using attachments? is there an issue with the software? I'm looking forward to a lively discussion, but technicalities seem to get in the way - for example, I just read a post from Murat, but it disappears when I try to quote parts of it. Thanks -)<br>
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