<div dir="ltr">I like the idea that one would write, whether it be for philosophy, art, science, or love, without commitment to a pre-ordained solution. In this sense, sentimentality is an obstacle to a kind of art.<div><br></div><div>On the other hand, I also think, like Murat, that there might contemporary demands placed on poetics beyond modernism.... and that works might be forged from deliberation, not as perfected gestures, but as relational events between rigorously engaged subjects. Which requires the suspension of sentimentality, but in a different way. </div><div><br></div><div>davin</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Murat Nemet-Nejat <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:muratnn@gmail.com" target="_blank">muratnn@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------<br><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>""There's nothing sentimental about a machine, and: A poem is a small<br>
(or large) machine made out of words. When I say there's nothing<br>
sentimental about a poem, I mean that there can be no part that is<br>
redundant. Prose may carry a load of ill-defined matter like a ship.<br>
But poetry is a machine which drives it, pruned to a perfect economy."<br><br></div>Margaret, if we change the word "redundant" to "non-functional," one might as well be describing modern architecture of Bauhaus, etc. I wonder if our era has not gone beyond that stage and requires a different aesthetic, one more in tune with the realities of our times.<br><br></div>Ciao,<br></div>Murat<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Margaret J Rhee <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mrhee@uoregon.edu" target="_blank">mrhee@uoregon.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------<br>
"There's nothing sentimental about a machine, and: A poem is a small<br>
(or large) machine made out of words. When I say there's nothing<br>
sentimental about a poem, I mean that there can be no part that is<br>
redundant. Prose may carry a load of ill-defined matter like a ship.<br>
But poetry is a machine which drives it, pruned to a perfect economy.<br>
As in all machines, its movement is intrinsic, undulant, a physical<br>
more than a literary character."<br>
<br>
I'd like to start a thread about this quote by WCW, that Mike raised here.<br>
A friend the Mexican poet Hugo Martinez, remarked we should replace machine<br>
with machete.<br>
<br>
"There must be something hardwired into its machinery--a heartbeat, a<br>
pulse--that keeps it breathing." -- Ed Hirsch<br>
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