<div dir="ltr">One can tell this group of sonnets, but eventually, that will be solved - but a more interesting question is "Can a computer write a sonnet which is unique to be a computer?" After all, the first question of the computer intelligence is "does it exist?", and only secondarily, "can it mimic human intelligence?" Just as a human by studying a foreign language can master the intricacies so that a poem s/he writes cannot be distinguished from poems from native speakers.<div><br></div><div>(My name is Stirling Newberry, and I am from Boston - and part of the complex of Harvard/MIT people. I will now go back to working on a paper which includes a large section on Turning. I was invited to join after posting a missive on the change in writing styles <a href="https://symbalitics.blogspot.com/2017/05/lacunae-in-fiction.html">The Sorcerer's Apprentice: Lacunae in Fiction</a> )</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Margaret J Rhee <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mrhee@uoregon.edu" target="_blank">mrhee@uoregon.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------<br>
I would love to continue this thread about the poem is a small (or large) machine and WCW, as we close the forum this month.<br>
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An article on a poetry Turing Test: "Can a computer write a sonnet that's indistinguishable from what a human can produce?"<br>
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It reminds me of when Turing writes in "Computer Machinery and Intelligence," "Q: Please write me a sonnet on the subject of the Forth Bridge. A : Count me out on this one. I never could write poetry."<br>
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I am currently completing my book chapter on the film Ex-machina, and thinking about the Turing Test, would this mean for augmentations of the test for AI, what might this mean for questions around gender that was salient in Turing's work?<br>
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<a href="http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/06/27/480639265/human-or-machine-can-you-tell-who-wrote-these-poems" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.npr.org/sections/al<wbr>ltechconsidered/2016/06/27/480<wbr>639265/human-or-machine-can-<wbr>you-tell-who-wrote-these-poems</a><br>
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On 2017-05-07 02:55, William Bain wrote:<br>
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Hello Empyreans. I’m greatly enjoying the discussion, all its<br>
various themes. What struck me today in regard to the William Carlos<br>
Williams quote & comments was Davin’s opposition of unplanned versus<br>
ple-planned texts (not only poems). I find that and Murat’s comments<br>
on constraints in postmodernist versus those in modernist texts very<br>
interesting. Perhaps this is where the robotic and machinic become<br>
more involved in the idea of a poem’s persona(e). Whatever metaphor<br>
is used gives a certain slant to a text obviously. This brought to<br>
mind Burroughs’ title (and concept) The Soft Machine, where the<br>
body, the human body, both collective and particular, are the main<br>
metaphor. Alan Sondheim has mentioned the concept of splatter or<br>
scatter a number of times in previous posts, and I ofund myself<br>
thinking to the body as tool and toolmaker, not only in humans but in<br>
other animals as well, including insects, obviousy. So here we are<br>
mayabe in ideas about the rhapsodic and how much weight a poem puts on<br>
improvisation. Thanks so much for all the ideas! Best wishes, William<br>
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University of Oregon<br>
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